[pp.int.general] Don't roast our planet

Jack Allnutt j.allnutt at pirateparty.org.uk
Thu May 17 11:17:25 CEST 2012


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On 17/05/2012 09:47, Charly Pache wrote:
> Sorry, but I read a lot on this topic, and many scientists disagree,
many many and more and more, you have to stop reading only main stream
media that only repeat the same story again and again. It's like saying
ACTA is good because 90%+ of the lawyers in the field say it's good. The
fact is that the more you read about this subject on the point of view
of different sciences (sun specialists, dendrology, ice carrots, geology
and so on), and then you compare it with the computer model of the IPCC
(and you know all that changing a single parameter can have tremendous
consequences, and that's it is impossible to make a realistic model of
the climate), you start to really doubt about the man-made cause of the
warming, which occurs, but not of 2°C in the last 70 years as said
before. The real scientific approach is to make a real literature review
and not say there is a consensus, there was a consensus about Earth
being flat once.. we should never stop researching.

Your analogy with ACTA is flawed. Scientists don't just take an opinion
and argue it. Science is based on evidence, not feelings or legal
justifications.

You say that "The real scientific approach is to make a real literature
review" and that is *exactly* what the IPCC does. I'd advise you to stop
"reading more" unsubstantiated blogs and dissenting "scientists" and
concentrate on the peer-reviewed literature.

> And by the way, what do the politicians do with the IPCC global warming
assertion? Raise taxes. And create a business market for CO2 emission.
And where do the money of these taxes go? Most of it do not go into
environmental projects at all (it's like this in Switzerland at least)
but fill other budget holes. So even if the idea seems noble, please
look closer, please look behind the curtains.

As I said in my last e-mail, correlation does not imply causation. Just
because the response to the science is bad this does not mean that the
science is bad. Help propose alternative measures to reduce climate
change that really do help. Help stop the ones that don't.

> And not to mention that it's better to have a warmer climate than a
colder climate, we can protect ourselves from heat, not from cold.

Absolute codswallop.

> I think many other political do something about environment already,
more or less, but almost none of them do something to protect the
consummers from all the chemical shit the food industry puts into our
plates or around (aspartame and other sweeteners, teflon, bisphenol and
many others). This is really where the pirate party could get sympathy,
eventually financing further studies on these topics.

By all means promote studies and scientific investigations into these
topics, but don't assume that unnatural == bad.

- -- Jack
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