[pp.int.general] Don't roast our planet

[Charly Pache]

The argument is that human kind has a limited amount of energy, resource
and time and it's better to put focus on the most efficient ways of
reaching our goal. In a limited world, we have to prioritize and yes, these
two things could be mutually exclusive if we realize we have to put all
your resources in one solution or the other. So my argument is an argument,
definitely.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Justus Römeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:

> As others have stated, reducing CO2 emissions is a worthy goal even if
> they are not responsible for global warming. At the same time we have to
> plan for the scenario that we will not be able to stop global warming
> whatever we do, and act accordingly. Those two things are not mutually
> exclusive, so your argument is not really an argument at all.
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Charly Pache <charly.pache at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> No, it was just insinuating that i'm ignorant that i didn't like, and
>> transforming my words to let think i said something i never said.
>>
>> One last thought about this topic.
>>
>> Imagine one day, in let say 20 years, we realize the main cause of the
>> global warming was not C02, but sun fluctuation.
>>
>> And that we suddenly realize that during the last 20 years we took
>> measures to cut-off C02 emissions and that these heavy measures didn't stop
>> global warming at all cos in fact, we didn't analyse toroughouly the topic
>> at the beginning and we blindly accepted for granted the C02 theory, even
>> if we didn't have all the necessary data.
>>
>> That's dangerous. Because then will realize we lost 20 years into looking
>> for other solutions, like this one [1] or these ones [2][3], in the case
>> the sun would be the cause.
>>
>> Take care, warm thoughts ;) Charly
>>
>> [1] Obama climate adviser open to geo-engineering to tackle global
>> warming:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/08/geo-engineering-john-holdren
>> [2] Geoengineering experiment cancelled amid patent row (15th May 2012!,
>> please note that climate engineering is not yet allowed under international
>> law):
>> http://www.nature.com/news/geoengineering-experiment-cancelled-amid-patent-row-1.10645
>> [3] A (not so up-to-date) list of geoengineering patents filed by many
>> private corporations (and i didn't say it's bad, if situation on Earth will
>> be unbearable, we will have to raise the issue):
>> http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/patents.html
>>
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>> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>>     Re-read my messages please, I never said there is no global warming
>>> going
>>>    on, on the contrary, we argued here on whether it was really man made
>>> or
>>>    natural, like it could be assumed as the other planets in our solar
>>> system
>>>    get warmer as well. And I never said 4°C in Switzerland is the proof
>>> that
>>>    there is no global warming
>>>
>>> By mentioning it in this discussion, you presented it as relevant to
>>> the issue.  If you misspoke, you can say so and people will disregard
>>> that apparent meaning.  But don't criticize people for responding for
>>> what you appear to say.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr Richard Stallman
>>> President, Free Software Foundation
>>> 51 Franklin St
>>> Boston MA 02110
>>> USA
>>> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
>>> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>>>  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
>>>
>>
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