[pp.int.general] Don't roast our planet

[Justus Römeth]

Now you just sound childish while making up hypothetical scenarios that
suit your weird arguments, tbh. If our resources were that strained we'd be
f'cked either way. This is not a Roland Emmerich movie!

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Charly Pache <charly.pache at gmail.com>wrote:

> The argument is that human kind has a limited amount of energy, resource
> and time and it's better to put focus on the most efficient ways of
> reaching our goal. In a limited world, we have to prioritize and yes, these
> two things could be mutually exclusive if we realize we have to put all
> your resources in one solution or the other. So my argument is an argument,
> definitely.
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Justus Römeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:
>
>> As others have stated, reducing CO2 emissions is a worthy goal even if
>> they are not responsible for global warming. At the same time we have to
>> plan for the scenario that we will not be able to stop global warming
>> whatever we do, and act accordingly. Those two things are not mutually
>> exclusive, so your argument is not really an argument at all.
>>
>> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Charly Pache <charly.pache at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> No, it was just insinuating that i'm ignorant that i didn't like, and
>>> transforming my words to let think i said something i never said.
>>>
>>> One last thought about this topic.
>>>
>>> Imagine one day, in let say 20 years, we realize the main cause of the
>>> global warming was not C02, but sun fluctuation.
>>>
>>> And that we suddenly realize that during the last 20 years we took
>>> measures to cut-off C02 emissions and that these heavy measures didn't stop
>>> global warming at all cos in fact, we didn't analyse toroughouly the topic
>>> at the beginning and we blindly accepted for granted the C02 theory, even
>>> if we didn't have all the necessary data.
>>>
>>> That's dangerous. Because then will realize we lost 20 years into
>>> looking for other solutions, like this one [1] or these ones [2][3], in the
>>> case the sun would be the cause.
>>>
>>> Take care, warm thoughts ;) Charly
>>>
>>> [1] Obama climate adviser open to geo-engineering to tackle global
>>> warming:
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/08/geo-engineering-john-holdren
>>> [2] Geoengineering experiment cancelled amid patent row (15th May 2012!,
>>> please note that climate engineering is not yet allowed under international
>>> law):
>>> http://www.nature.com/news/geoengineering-experiment-cancelled-amid-patent-row-1.10645
>>> [3] A (not so up-to-date) list of geoengineering patents filed by many
>>> private corporations (and i didn't say it's bad, if situation on Earth will
>>> be unbearable, we will have to raise the issue):
>>> http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/patents.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Re-read my messages please, I never said there is no global warming
>>>> going
>>>>    on, on the contrary, we argued here on whether it was really man
>>>> made or
>>>>    natural, like it could be assumed as the other planets in our solar
>>>> system
>>>>    get warmer as well. And I never said 4°C in Switzerland is the proof
>>>> that
>>>>    there is no global warming
>>>>
>>>> By mentioning it in this discussion, you presented it as relevant to
>>>> the issue.  If you misspoke, you can say so and people will disregard
>>>> that apparent meaning.  But don't criticize people for responding for
>>>> what you appear to say.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Richard Stallman
>>>> President, Free Software Foundation
>>>> 51 Franklin St
>>>> Boston MA 02110
>>>> USA
>>>> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
>>>> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>>>>  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
>>>>
>>>
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