[pp.int.general] [pp-eu] Party IT systems.. - the back ends..
Kenneth Peiruza
kenneth at pirata.cat
Tue May 29 23:37:39 CEST 2012
Hi all,
PP-CAT uses mumble for meetings ( + pads for support of the meetings ).
We have a piratenpad team (cat.piratenpad.de), however, we're
considering to use our own pad server, as piratenpad has many downtimes,
and it doesn't allow features like uploading files or linking between
files ( check this server, it's my personal one: http://pad.atkn.net use
[[padname]] to create a link to a new pad :P ).
Links between pads help a lot. I use pad teams for organizing the
documentation of my LPIC courses, and it works really well.
I needed to hack an etherpad file to raise the ammount of simultaneous
users above 16. So far, it worked. BTW, if you create a pad which name
starts with "conf-" , you get up to 64 simultaneous users ;)
We're probably going to put a wiki to write consolidated texts there,
so, we use pads for "work in progress" or quick-tasks like translations,
articles and so on.
On the CRM side, we're using vtigerCRM, and for communications, we have
mailing lists and custom scripts for delivering emails to members or
journalists in our CRM, even being able to filter by postal codes or
postal regions (provinces and so on).
Our e-voting system is Ideatorrent, quite nice and easy to use, made by
Canonical for the Ubuntu community ( http://www.ideatorrent.org ), see
it in action here:
https://xifrat.pirata.cat/ideatorrent/implemented_ideas/most_popular/ It
can't be used for liquid democracy, we work with direct democracy right
now. It works over Drupal + PostgreSQL. We use Drupal commons + Webforms
for our basic formularies (contact information, membership request & so on).
Our website and blog run with Wordpress. http://pirata.cat
http://pirata.cat/bloc
Our authentication backend is based on LDAP, so, your password is the
same in any PP-CAT's service.
We do also have forums, with members & non-member users. We're using
"Vanilla Forums", which is FLOSS.
For mailing lists, mailman, of course.
Our servers run Debian GNU/Linux.
We're wondering to use a GNU/GPL file-sharing solution. We're
considering a simple webdav repository, Sparkleshare and I don't
remember the name of the other alternative.
Our friends at PP-GAL are creating a consistent LDAP structure to be
able to store all the member's information in an LDAP tree, might be
nice to cooperate in such a thing :)
So, in short, we're 100% GNU GPL based, and that's one of our requisites.
Regards!
Kenneth Peiruza
Pirates de Catalunya
http://pirata.cat
Al 28/05/12 20:54, En/na Johan Karlsson ha escrit:
> Im sorry to say this.. but.. the only thing that has been working
> fairly well for PPSE is
>
> Skype - For day-to-day things. IRC, Mumble, XMPP and all other chat
> protocols just doesnt handle backlogg well enough.
>
> FogBugz - For email ticket support. It has calmed down a bit now, but
> earlier we could get about 1000 emails per day.
>
> Piratepad - For writing shorter texts
>
> Seriously hacked vBulletin forum - for meetings
>
> AFK - Really the only thing that works for agreeing on things.
>
> So no almost no free software. :(
>
> Cheers
> Johan
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Andy Halsall
> <a.halsall at pirateparty.org.uk <mailto:a.halsall at pirateparty.org.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> On Monday 28 May 2012 18:55:36 Rok Andrée wrote:
> > Redmine for project manegment
> >
> > osTicket for email support system
> >
> > But i also have not found a sutible membership manegment tool so I'm
> > writing our own. Biggest problem with civicrm is that it does
> not encrypt
> > ANYTHING.
>
> I'd love to take a look at what you are putting together if you
> have the time
> at some point.. with civicrm I note that you can do the encryption
> yourself
> (disk and comms), but it still doesn't seem to do what I want..
> >
> > IRC and mumble and mailinglists (plural) for communication.
> Bridging most
> > of this to irc would be easy.
>
> Yeah, we tend to use mumble/VOIP and POTS for meetings and mailing
> lists for
> anything asynchronous, but it does still leave some people out.
> >
> > etherpad for writing of any and all texts (has anyone else had
> problems
> > with organisation of the pads? we have a total mess as there are
> way to
> > many of them)
>
> We are using that, probably the best bit of kit available for
> collaborative
> writing.
>
>
> > Liquidizer/liquidfeedback for consensus building (anything
> preferred?)
>
> I've looked at this, but for initial development it doesn't seem
> terribly well
> suited.
> >
> > Helios voting for e-voting (any other systems)?
> >
> > There's a PPI techteam that you can find on #intl-it @pirateirc
> (I'm Putr).
>
> Now I know who to badger...
> >
> >
> > Rok Andrée
> > Sekretar (Secretary)
> > Piratska stranka Slovenije <http://piratskastranka.net>
> > (Slovenian Pirate Party)
> >
> > On 28 May 2012 19:21, Justus Römeth <roemeth at gmail.com
> <mailto:roemeth at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > Mailing Lists (plural) and Redmine certainly helped us, but in
> the end
> > > party-wide communication is just very iffy or nearly
> impossible with a
> > > certain size. There certainly is no 'one-size-fits-all' approach,
> > > especially as soon as you start to attract 'offliners'. Having
> great
> > > elected party officers with big teams of volunteers behind
> them certainly
> > > helps keeping somehow track of things happening.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Andy Halsall <
> > >
> > > a.halsall at pirateparty.org.uk
> <mailto:a.halsall at pirateparty.org.uk>> wrote:
> > >> Hey ho,
> > >>
> > >> Looking for some ideas on coordination and campaigns support
> from an IT
> > >> perspective. I've been evaluating Things like groupware
> packages,
> > >> civicrm and
> > >> other crm packages and a couple of project apps, but haven't
> found
> > >> anything
> > >> that ticks even most of the boxes yet.
> > >>
> > >> I wondered what people were aware of that might make the
> following
> easier:
> > >> 1a. Inbound Communications (tracking inbound
> communications to
> > >>
> > >> teams and
> > >> making sure that follow ups happen and can be handed between
> people).
> > >>
> > >> 1b. Outbound Communications (the ability to drop out
> mailings to
> > >>
> > >> groups
> > >> based on some criteria - location, membership, interests etc..)
> > >>
> > >> 2. Task management, the delegation of and acceptance
> of 'stuff
> > >>
> > >> that needs
> > >> to be done' within a team.
> > >>
> > >> 3. Reporting on and tracking of the effectiveness of
> our actions,
> > >>
> > >> whether
> > >> that's a specific campaign or event. This should also
> include things
> > >> like donation and membership payments being linked to a
> 'thing' if
> > >> there was a thing that caused the donation/membership.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At the moment we are using calendars, forums and mailing list
> and a
> > >> wiki, but
> > >> as we get more people coming in for contact it's getting
> harder to use
> > >> sensibly and delegation is not as simple as it could be.
> Essentially we
> > >> are
> > >> making our lives harder than they need to be when it comes to
> > >> organisation online.
> > >>
> > >> We also have a mild issue in the way we are organised for
> elections,
> > >> that is
> > >> to say because it's all FPTP and very local much of the time,
> we have to
> > >> be
> > >> able make use of this to get pretty granular, down to areas
> that are
> > >> essentially small town sized, especially for issues, whilst
> still being
> > >> able
> > >> to task national resources for support...
> > >>
> > >> So, any ideas? What are others doing?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Andy Halsall
> > >> Campaigns Officer
> > >> Pirate Party UK
> > >> +44 (0) 7505111705
> > >>
> > >> For more information on the Pirate Party UK, please visit our
> website at
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> please
> > >> email the
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> > >> political
> > >> party registered at 11, 45 Streatham Hill, London, SW2 4TS,
> United
> > >> Kingdom.
> > >>
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> --
> Andy Halsall
> Campaigns Officer
> Pirate Party UK
> +44 (0) 7505111705
>
> For more information on the Pirate Party UK, please visit our
> website at
> http://www.pirateparty.org.uk. If you wish to receive regular press
> statements from the Party (or no longer wish to receive them)
> please email the
> Press Office at press at pirateparty.org.uk
> <mailto:press at pirateparty.org.uk>. The Pirate Party UK is a political
> party registered at 11, 45 Streatham Hill, London, SW2 4TS, United
> Kingdom.
>
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