[pp.int.general] [pp-eu] Party IT systems.. - the back ends..

Mon May 28 20:54:48 CEST 2012

Im sorry to say this.. but.. the only thing that has been working fairly
well for PPSE is

Skype - For day-to-day things. IRC, Mumble, XMPP and all other chat
protocols just doesnt handle backlogg well enough.

FogBugz - For email ticket support. It has calmed down a bit now, but
earlier we could get about 1000 emails per day.

Piratepad - For writing shorter texts

Seriously hacked vBulletin forum - for meetings

AFK - Really the only thing that works for agreeing on things.

So no almost no free software. :(

Cheers
Johan

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Andy Halsall
<a.halsall at pirateparty.org.uk>wrote:

> On Monday 28 May 2012 18:55:36 Rok Andrée wrote:
> > Redmine for project manegment
> >
> > osTicket for email support system
> >
> > But i also have not found a sutible membership manegment tool so I'm
> > writing our own. Biggest problem with civicrm is that it does not encrypt
> > ANYTHING.
>
> I'd love to take a look at what you are putting together if you have the
> time
> at some point.. with civicrm I note that you can do the encryption yourself
> (disk and comms), but it still doesn't seem to do what I want..
> >
> > IRC and mumble and mailinglists (plural) for communication. Bridging most
> > of this to irc would be easy.
>
> Yeah, we tend to use mumble/VOIP and POTS for meetings and mailing lists
> for
> anything asynchronous, but it does still leave some people out.
> >
> > etherpad for writing of any and all texts (has anyone else had problems
> > with organisation of the pads? we have a total mess as there are way to
> > many of them)
>
> We are using that, probably the best bit of kit available for collaborative
> writing.
>
>
> > Liquidizer/liquidfeedback for consensus building (anything preferred?)
>
> I've looked at this, but for initial development it doesn't seem terribly
> well
> suited.
> >
> > Helios voting for e-voting (any other systems)?
> >
> > There's a PPI techteam that you can find on #intl-it @pirateirc (I'm
> Putr).
>
> Now I know who to badger...
> >
> >
> > Rok Andrée
> > Sekretar  (Secretary)
> > Piratska stranka Slovenije <http://piratskastranka.net>
> > (Slovenian Pirate Party)
> >
> > On 28 May 2012 19:21, Justus Römeth <roemeth at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Mailing Lists (plural) and Redmine certainly helped us, but in the end
> > > party-wide communication is just very iffy or nearly impossible with a
> > > certain size. There certainly is no 'one-size-fits-all' approach,
> > > especially as soon as you start to attract 'offliners'. Having great
> > > elected party officers with big teams of volunteers behind them
> certainly
> > > helps keeping somehow track of things happening.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Andy Halsall <
> > >
> > > a.halsall at pirateparty.org.uk> wrote:
> > >> Hey ho,
> > >>
> > >> Looking for some ideas on coordination and campaigns support from an
> IT
> > >> perspective.  I've been evaluating Things like groupware packages,
> > >> civicrm and
> > >> other crm packages and a couple of project apps, but haven't found
> > >> anything
> > >> that ticks even most of the boxes yet.
> > >>
> > >> I wondered what people were aware of that might make the following
> easier:
> > >>        1a. Inbound Communications (tracking inbound communications to
> > >>
> > >> teams and
> > >> making sure that follow ups happen and can be handed between people).
> > >>
> > >>        1b. Outbound Communications (the ability to drop out mailings
> to
> > >>
> > >> groups
> > >> based on some criteria - location, membership, interests etc..)
> > >>
> > >>        2. Task management, the delegation of and acceptance of 'stuff
> > >>
> > >> that needs
> > >> to be done' within a team.
> > >>
> > >>        3. Reporting on and tracking of the effectiveness of our
> actions,
> > >>
> > >> whether
> > >> that's a specific campaign or event.  This should also include things
> > >> like donation and membership payments being linked to a 'thing' if
> > >> there was a thing that caused the donation/membership.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At the moment we are using calendars, forums and mailing list and a
> > >> wiki, but
> > >> as we get more people coming in for contact it's getting harder to use
> > >> sensibly and delegation is not as simple as it could be.  Essentially
> we
> > >> are
> > >> making our lives harder than they need to be when it comes to
> > >> organisation online.
> > >>
> > >> We also have a mild issue in the way we are organised for elections,
> > >> that is
> > >> to say because it's all FPTP and very local much of the time, we have
> to
> > >> be
> > >> able make use of this to get pretty granular, down to areas that are
> > >> essentially small town sized, especially for issues, whilst still
> being
> > >> able
> > >> to task national resources for support...
> > >>
> > >> So, any ideas? What are others doing?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Andy Halsall
> > >> Campaigns Officer
> > >> Pirate Party UK
> > >> +44 (0) 7505111705
> > >>
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> --
> Andy Halsall
> Campaigns Officer
> Pirate Party UK
> +44 (0) 7505111705
>
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