[pp.int.general] Board meeting protocols of Pirate Parties

Kenneth Peiruza kenneth at pirata.cat
Sun Oct 7 15:55:14 CEST 2012


Please, re-read my first email, there everything is explained :)

Al 07/10/12 14:08, En/na Anouk Neeteson ha escrit:
>
>
> great news Kenneth, only I still do not understand the relation
> between the given law and not publishing the minutes. Privacy matters
> are irrelevant to this law. What I say is that the use of this
> argument is invalid. And therefor I ask again what is the reason not
> to publish the minutes right now? Please understand me, this is not an
> attack, but since the Catalonian pirates are the only pirates not
> publishing these minutes and in my trying to understand international
> relations I still have my formal question open. I understand the need
> of editing of the past minutes, but what is the procedure for the next
> meeting or otherwise put, can we see it on the our list then? (since
> there is no legal reason for this)
> Anouk
>
> On Oct 7, 2012 12:14 p.m., "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat
> <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>
>     That is exactly.what we said we approved in my email xD
>
>
>     Salut!
>     Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jakobsheep at gmail.com>> escribió:
>     Hi Kenneth, thanks for the quick reply. Ans as always, an answer gives
>     another question. The sanctions mentioned in Artículo 45 are only for
>     those that enforce 'confession', it does NOT state:" It's is strictly
>     forbidden to reveal the ideology of a person." But it would be like:
>     "It is strictly forbidden to enforce to have someone reveal his/her
>     ideologie." So I don not understand the argumentation NOT to share the
>     general assembly's minutes because of the LOPD.
>     In the Netherlands if someone does not want to have their name
>     published, they got a pseudonym for that purpose. Why don't you do it
>     the same way in Catalonia? Especially since it is so essential for the
>     transparency as you claim to support.
>
>     Anouk Neeteson
>     member international coordination Belgium and the Netherlands.
>     (proposing an international coordination team in France next AG in
>     Montreuil)
>
>
>     On 7 October 2012 09:23, Dario <dario at pirata.cat
>     <mailto:dario at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>     > 2012/10/7 Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jakobsheep at gmail.com>>
>     >>
>     >> Hi Kenneth, can you give me the precise text in the Spanish
>     LOPD ? I
>     >> am very curious how it states / defines:  " It's is strictly
>     forbidden
>     >> to reveal the ideology of a person." ? And I can not find it, but
>     >> again my Spanish is really bad :)
>     >
>     >
>     > http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t2.html#a7
>     >
>     >> Artículo 7. Datos especialmente protegidos.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> 1. De acuerdo con lo establecido en el apartado 2 del artículo
>     16 de la
>     >> Constitución, nadie podrá ser obligado a declarar sobre su
>     ideología,
>     >> religión o creencias.
>     >
>     >
>     > Quick translation:
>     >
>     >> Article 7. Sensitive data.
>     >> 1. By Constitution, nobody can be forced to tell about their
>     ideology,
>     >> religion or beliefs.
>     >
>     >
>     > And the fine for doing something like publishing the political
>     affiliation
>     > of people is stated here:
>     >
>     http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t7.html#a45
>     "Only"
>     > between 300.000 and 600.000EUR.
>     >
>     > --
>     > Dario Castañé
>     > http://www.dario.im | http://twitter.com/im_dario
>     >
>     >
>     >
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