[pp.int.general] Board meeting protocols of Pirate Parties
Kenneth Peiruza
kenneth at pirata.cat
Sun Oct 7 15:55:14 CEST 2012
Please, re-read my first email, there everything is explained :)
Al 07/10/12 14:08, En/na Anouk Neeteson ha escrit:
>
>
> great news Kenneth, only I still do not understand the relation
> between the given law and not publishing the minutes. Privacy matters
> are irrelevant to this law. What I say is that the use of this
> argument is invalid. And therefor I ask again what is the reason not
> to publish the minutes right now? Please understand me, this is not an
> attack, but since the Catalonian pirates are the only pirates not
> publishing these minutes and in my trying to understand international
> relations I still have my formal question open. I understand the need
> of editing of the past minutes, but what is the procedure for the next
> meeting or otherwise put, can we see it on the our list then? (since
> there is no legal reason for this)
> Anouk
>
> On Oct 7, 2012 12:14 p.m., "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat
> <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>
> That is exactly.what we said we approved in my email xD
>
>
> Salut!
> Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com
> <mailto:jakobsheep at gmail.com>> escribió:
> Hi Kenneth, thanks for the quick reply. Ans as always, an answer gives
> another question. The sanctions mentioned in Artículo 45 are only for
> those that enforce 'confession', it does NOT state:" It's is strictly
> forbidden to reveal the ideology of a person." But it would be like:
> "It is strictly forbidden to enforce to have someone reveal his/her
> ideologie." So I don not understand the argumentation NOT to share the
> general assembly's minutes because of the LOPD.
> In the Netherlands if someone does not want to have their name
> published, they got a pseudonym for that purpose. Why don't you do it
> the same way in Catalonia? Especially since it is so essential for the
> transparency as you claim to support.
>
> Anouk Neeteson
> member international coordination Belgium and the Netherlands.
> (proposing an international coordination team in France next AG in
> Montreuil)
>
>
> On 7 October 2012 09:23, Dario <dario at pirata.cat
> <mailto:dario at pirata.cat>> wrote:
> > 2012/10/7 Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com
> <mailto:jakobsheep at gmail.com>>
> >>
> >> Hi Kenneth, can you give me the precise text in the Spanish
> LOPD ? I
> >> am very curious how it states / defines: " It's is strictly
> forbidden
> >> to reveal the ideology of a person." ? And I can not find it, but
> >> again my Spanish is really bad :)
> >
> >
> > http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t2.html#a7
> >
> >> Artículo 7. Datos especialmente protegidos.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. De acuerdo con lo establecido en el apartado 2 del artículo
> 16 de la
> >> Constitución, nadie podrá ser obligado a declarar sobre su
> ideología,
> >> religión o creencias.
> >
> >
> > Quick translation:
> >
> >> Article 7. Sensitive data.
> >> 1. By Constitution, nobody can be forced to tell about their
> ideology,
> >> religion or beliefs.
> >
> >
> > And the fine for doing something like publishing the political
> affiliation
> > of people is stated here:
> >
> http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t7.html#a45
> "Only"
> > between 300.000 and 600.000EUR.
> >
> > --
> > Dario Castañé
> > http://www.dario.im | http://twitter.com/im_dario
> >
> >
> >
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