[pp.int.general] Board meeting protocols of Pirate Parties

[Anouk Neeteson]

Thanks Kenneth for the political answer. Now it is clear to me.
Anouk
On Oct 7, 2012 3:55 p.m., "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat> wrote:

>  Please, re-read my first email, there everything is explained :)
>
> Al 07/10/12 14:08, En/na Anouk Neeteson ha escrit:
>
>
> great news Kenneth, only I still do not understand the relation between
> the given law and not publishing the minutes. Privacy matters are
> irrelevant to this law. What I say is that the use of this argument is
> invalid. And therefor I ask again what is the reason not to publish the
> minutes right now? Please understand me, this is not an attack, but since
> the Catalonian pirates are the only pirates not publishing these minutes
> and in my trying to understand international relations I still have my
> formal question open. I understand the need of editing of the past minutes,
> but what is the procedure for the next meeting or otherwise put, can we see
> it on the our list then? (since there is no legal reason for this)
> Anouk
> On Oct 7, 2012 12:14 p.m., "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat> wrote:
>
>> That is exactly.what we said we approved in my email xD
>>
>>
>> Salut!
>> Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com> escribió:
>> Hi Kenneth, thanks for the quick reply. Ans as always, an answer gives
>> another question. The sanctions mentioned in Artículo 45 are only for
>> those that enforce 'confession', it does NOT state:" It's is strictly
>> forbidden to reveal the ideology of a person." But it would be like:
>> "It is strictly forbidden to enforce to have someone reveal his/her
>> ideologie." So I don not understand the argumentation NOT to share the
>> general assembly's minutes because of the LOPD.
>> In the Netherlands if someone does not want to have their name
>> published, they got a pseudonym for that purpose. Why don't you do it
>> the same way in Catalonia? Especially since it is so essential for the
>> transparency as you claim to support.
>>
>> Anouk Neeteson
>> member international coordination Belgium and the Netherlands.
>> (proposing an international coordination team in France next AG in
>> Montreuil)
>>
>>
>> On 7 October 2012 09:23, Dario <dario at pirata.cat> wrote:
>> > 2012/10/7 Anouk Neeteson <jakobsheep at gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Kenneth, can you give me the precise text in the Spanish LOPD ? I
>> >> am very curious how it states / defines:  " It's is strictly forbidden
>> >> to reveal the ideology of a person." ? And I can not find it, but
>> >> again my Spanish is really bad :)
>> >
>> >
>> > http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t2.html#a7
>> >
>> >> Artículo 7. Datos especialmente protegidos.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 1. De acuerdo con lo establecido en el apartado 2 del artículo 16 de la
>> >> Constitución, nadie podrá ser obligado a declarar sobre su ideología,
>> >> religión o creencias.
>> >
>> >
>> > Quick translation:
>> >
>> >> Article 7. Sensitive data.
>> >> 1. By Constitution, nobody can be forced to tell about their ideology,
>> >> religion or beliefs.
>> >
>> >
>> > And the fine for doing something like publishing the political
>> affiliation
>> > of people is stated here:
>> > http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo15-1999.t7.html#a45"Only"
>> > between 300.000 and 600.000€.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dario Castañé
>> > http://www.dario.im | http://twitter.com/im_dario
>> >
>> >
>> >
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