[pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal

[Aleksandar Blagojevic]

+1 on Muriel's email

About "Serbian case", it is solved. Racists like Jelena Jovanovic (sad
but true, she is still engaged with PPI, which opens another serious
question) and homophobes are out and banned from Serbian Pirate Party.

We are sailing steady now.

*I see that additional informations on our "case" are needed. they are
ready, and they will follow soon
**this "chase" for PPI legitimization and whining for membership is
rather interesting (since PPI board has at least one very questionable
person), PPI is becoming TV-style myth of public legitimization imho

On 09/25/2012 01:32 PM, MRE wrote:
> Dear Pilar,
>
> So, if I understood well, to register to the Italian Pirate Party you
> need that someone who is already a member somehow certifies the new
> members.
>
> And all these people that you represent and want to vote in the
> Italian liquid feedback system have been certified in particular by
> Carlo Brancati, who has been, if I understood correctly, at least
> partly banned from some PP-IT lists and the liquid feedback system
> through a voting in the liquid feedback itself?
>
> For the PPI to issue any kind of arbitration on this issue, all
> parties (the people who want to become members, PP-IT, and the PPI
> itself) should agree that this is what they want. Then I guess a
> comission of qualified volunteers or something of the sort should be
> formed so that they can investigate the matter in depth.
>
> Any opinion we state in this list is basically useless, because PPI
> does not rule over the parties, and this list does not represent PPI
> anyway. I believe that if you all want/accept PPI as an arbitrator you
> should send a formal request to the board.
>
> Best regards,
>
>                 Muriel
>
>
>
> 2012/9/25 Pilar Saavedra <pilarsaavedra.p at gmail.com>:
>> Dear PP International,
>>
>>
>>
>> I represent here 35 people from various fields (IT professionals,
>> Journalists and Media/Communication Managers) that are waiting to be
>> inserted in the Italian Pirate Party since 3 months now.
>>
>> We have been regularly certified and we paid the subscription fees.
>>
>> You can find all the forms with original signatures here:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/caafv4ianc7l7fg/RE6_FBQTqN
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem is clear: the subscription would give us also the right to vote
>> in Liquid Feedback witch is binding and fully decisional by Statutes for the
>> PP IT.
>>
>> So it’s quite clear that the Liquid Feedback administrator is not inserting
>> us because he’s afraid that we will vote against his (or his group of
>> friends?) proposals and we could take the control of the Party…
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn’t this a real paradox and scandal for a Party that wants to promote
>> transparency, openness and liquid democracy?
>>
>> I really hope that someone from the PP Int can take charge of this because
>> it’s simply destroying the Pirates’ reputation even at an international
>> level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Pilar Saavedra
>>
>>
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I prefer to have options, rather than plans.
Aleksandar Blagojevic aka blaeks <http://blaeks.wordpress.com/>
former PPI board member
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Parties_International>
founder of Pirate party of Serbia
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Serbia>
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