[pp.int.general] Pirate parties and religion (dogmatism)

[Gareth Nelson]

Easter is secular to most people, having some fun relating to easter is not
a religious activity.

Pirate politics shouldn't give a damn what someone's religious beliefs are
so long as such beliefs don't harm others in the actual practice if us
pirates are to be a multi-dimensional movement that truly cares about civil
liberties.

For what it's worth i'm a member of the Church of Satan who celebrates
easter and xmas (or "giftmas" as I call it) - because these holidays are
fun and almost entirely secular these days.

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On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Thijs Markus
<thijs.markus at piratenpartij.nl>wrote:

> Spring rituals involving eggs have more to do with the nesting behaviour
> of birds than with religious dogmatism. Spring rituals pre-date the gods
> and will probably exist long after the gods are gone - we are to an extend
> animals that feel invigorated by the onset of warmer weather and milder
> downpour, trees blossoming, and animals coming out of hibernation. As the
> world springs back to life after winter, so does the human spirit, and that
> will call for a celebration regardless of the presently prevailing
> religious insanities. And eggs are tied to this season. In fact, it is you
> who follows religious dogmatism by attributing these symbols to the
> christian savages.
>
> Aleksandar Blagojevic schreef op 05.04.2013 21:03:
>
>> On 04/04/2013 06:19 PM, Nicolás Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>  Aleksandar Blagojevic <piratska.partija.srbije@**gmail.com<piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com>>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>  Am I the only one who is sick of dogmatism election propaganda
>>>> within
>>>> some Pirate parties?
>>>> Better way to handle any religious date/event/"value" is to just
>>>> ignore
>>>> it. FFS <http://www.urbandictionary.**com/define.php?term=ffs<http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ffs>>,
>>>> we
>>>> live in
>>>> 21st century and our lives are irreversibly dependent on "heretic"
>>>> knowledge such is electric current, quantum physics, Internet,
>>>> satellites...
>>>>
>>>> Using religion (and religious values) to achieve any political
>>>> goal is
>>>> dangerous, irresponsible and, as we all know, can be very
>>>> destructive.
>>>> Imagine the shame when future generations look back and see what
>>>> some
>>>> "pirates" did in order to compensate their weak mental capacity
>>>> and
>>>> frustrations.
>>>>
>>>> Not good.
>>>>
>>>
>>> any example? at pp.ar we've discussed promoting apostasy but we
>>> haven't
>>> reach consensus for that, though we agreed on promoting laicism.
>>>
>>  This big thread is Pirate Party Croatia stance on this year's
>> catholic Easter:
>> https://www.facebook.com/**pirati.hr/posts/**495491173831886<https://www.facebook.com/pirati.hr/posts/495491173831886>[1]
>>
>>  I see their stance trough this act: I was banned because of
>> commenting the Easter post with "Christian Pirate Party" written with
>> serbo-croatian slang, (that comment was immediately removed). Other
>> people commented also, but pphr repetitively lacks with sane response.
>>
>>
>>  In my opinion, good thing to do is of course oppose any form of
>> dogmatism and/or, in this case, to condemn this religious-political
>> manipulation.
>>
>>  Another example, not that much in focus like PPHR and their local/EU
>> election run.
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/**photo.php?fbid=**519220741452945&set=a.**
>> 256265901081765.60540.**256264037748618&type=1&theater<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519220741452945&set=a.256265901081765.60540.256264037748618&type=1&theater>
>> [2] (Kalózpárt's photos · Kalózpárt's Page)
>>
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