[pp.int.general] Beating someone with a stick to change his mind

Antonio Garcia ningunotro at hotmail.com
Tue Apr 9 19:45:54 CEST 2013

Next step in your reasoning, to come closer to the truth...

... imagine the majority of your peers behave like kids...

... and plan for an intelligent solution.

Good luck.


> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:15:28 +0200
> From: zzbbyy at gmail.com
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: [pp.int.general] Beating someone with a stick to change his mind
> I have just finished
> http://www.gordontraining.com/store/parent-programs/parent-effectiveness-training-p-e-t-book-3/
> - I would recommend it to everyone here, not only to parents.
> According to it there are three ways parents can resolve conflicts
> with children.  The first two are:
> 1. Children do what parent wants.
> 2. Parent do what child wants.
> In other ways this is about coercion - either parent coerces the child
> (by punishment or by bribes) or the child coerces the parent (by being
> terrible).  They are often kind of automatic default way, but there is
> also a third way that we use when we deal with people that are our
> peers: it is about negotiating, sometimes the effect is a compromise,
> sometimes it is a completely new solution that is acceptable to both
> sides.
> I have the feeling that some people try to use this list a coercion
> mechanism - they attack people verbally and think that this will beat
> the other side into submission, but:
> 1. Beating someone is not a good way to change his mind.
> 2. Attacking someone on a mailing list is a very ineffective way to
> beat him - it is all imaginary and it will never coerce that someone
> into submission.  It only opens an endless spiral of flames.
> We are all peers here - please use appropriate means of conflict resolution.
> --
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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