[pp.int.general] Official Results from Kazan?

[Andrew Norton]

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Thomas, please, stop trolling.
But to rise to the bait just one last time (and to make your trolling
clear to everyone)

You 'do not like at all' negative thinking up front. Yet your first
email went straight to an accusation of bullying, followed by a
personal attack, all for asking a question.

Second, you yourself have noted the SAME lack of information, and that
you, with the same information as the remote delegates, have no
knowledge about some of the votes, 2 days on. And yet you find that
'acceptable'?

Thirdly, you seem to imply that I was personally asking you, and only
you, for the results. I was not. I asked the list, because there were
a lot of people there, physically, and could give the results. I did
not. In fact I made no reference to you at all, until you started
trolling (repeatedly) as I knew you would not have the results I was
asking for.

So for you to later claim no hatred, when your immediate response to a
reasonable question is to be negative and shout 'bullying' and
attacking me, and derail the question; that certainly would indicate
that you have a personal issue with me. If so, please keep it to those
lovely tweets you send me, or direct to email again, rather than
cluttering up the list with it. I'm sure we'd all appreciate it.

Thanks,
Andrew


On 4/23/2013 3:24 PM, Thomas Gaul wrote:
> Am 23.04.2013 20:16, schrieb Andrew Norton:
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>> Thomas, perhaps if you put your animosity to one side (please,
>> for once?
> I'd like to. But things I do not like at all is negative thinking
> up front. It feels like the destiny of some people lies in finding 
> something to grouse about - esp. if either the board of PPI or
> some German (speaking) person is at the other end. Think about 
> "sender-->receiver" meaning the difference between the information
> given and received. Plus the experience from some people (not from
> countries) who are eager to transport the false idea that PPI is
> euro-centric or even worse. (in a way it is, considering the sum of
> members, and think about the history of the pirate movements.)
> 
>> I know you hate me, but let's try being CONSTRUCTIVE), and
>> please re-read my original email, you might understand what I was
>> asking for. If not, I'll try and make myself clearer.
>> 
> First of all you assume I hate you. As I have never met you - there
> is neither hatred nor something else. How could I as there is no
> reason for it.
> 
>> 
>> What I was asking for was a brief summery of the various votes.
> 
> Any help is appreciated! As you have the same "advantage" of not 
> attending the GA in Kazan (only by remote) you are as capable as me
> or others. Plus I believe you carry a 24-7 thinking. (All others do
> not know how to do it, they are incapable of doing anything right
> asf.
> 
>> 
>> "statues were voted in as a block" The block was SAPx, n, y, and
>> z. For was "...", Against "..." and "..." abstained
>> 
>> the same with the other elections.
>> 
> 
> So you do have the same information like I do. Ask Patrick Mächler
> - he took the minutes. As neither the board nor I do not know where
> he is atm (he could be on his way home, still staying in Kazan or
> somewhere else. As he collected these information ... no need to
> end the sentence :)
> 
> 
>> This, if nothing else, clarifies the positions of the parties,
>> and helps identify any mis-recorded votes, or faithless electors.
>> As such, the sooner this went out, the better, so that any issues
>> that may arise can be addressed as quickly as possible.
> 
> True, this can be done the moment the necessary information are 
> available. Patience is a virtue.
> 
>> 
>> I'd have done it myself, except it's not clear from the video, or
>> the minutes sometimes who voted for what. And at least one vote
>> (the court) has no results listed at all (in the 'results' it
>> just lists a copy of the candidates). The lay auditors have no
>> votes listed, and the membership application votes are not
>> clear.
>> 
> 
> I know. So we do have exactly the same information. As mentioned
> above: wait for Patrick.
>> Hence the questions.
>> 
>> I'm sorry if this seems like an unreasonable request to you, but
>> it just seemed like common sense and basic practice to me.
>> 
> Not for me, If I'd have the information, I'd be eager to share
> them.
> 
> Although being dead tired I will not omit a formal greeting
> 
> Regards
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
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