[pp.int.general] Separation of Powers as a minimum PP requirement

[Rafa Couto]

Hi,

I disagree with your position. Yours is a bad example nowadays since several
countries have their own launching
codes<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons>.
Inter-country (read group of people) stability is stronger when power is
distributed.

Moreover, the empowerment is a fundamental concept in pirate philosophy and
a great value in order to avoid unfair rules. In my opinion, separation of
power must be an option and should be used by individual parts.

Regards,
Rafa



On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Anouk <jakobsheep at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some more brainstorming,
> The separation of powers as an advice yes, but as a condition, no.
>
> If problems occur in the future, we'll discuss it in a pirate way (direct
> dialogue). Besides, what works for one not necessairely works for another.
> (Next to the existing laws in each nation)
>
> Although,
> to give an example of no separation of powers, about launching nucleair
> missiles, are you saying it would be a good idea for each and all in a
> country to have an immediate launching code ? ;-)
>
> Keep on dreaming.
>
> Pirately,
> Anouk
> On 21 Aug 2013 14:16, "carlo von lynX" <lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Whenever I talk to German Pirates about the idea of doing a
>> political party without an effective separation of powers
>> they quite naturally tell me it cannot work. In fact in
>> Germany it's the law prescribing that parties need to have
>> seperated legislative, executive and judicial powers.
>>
>> Somewhere some Pirates instead think that this seperation
>> of powers thing is old-fashioned and an expression of the
>> "system" as we know it.
>>
>> This is a valuable rebellious way to see it, but the visible
>> consequence of this is that some verbally powerful people
>> dominate the social habitat, while others, who feel unjustily
>> treated or merely observe the behaviour of the ones in power,
>> quickly steer away from participating and contributing to a
>> common project. Thus, an actual political party never is
>> formed. I could say, it remains the playground of a handful
>> of bullies, but luckily I haven't seen any Pirate Party in
>> such bad conditions. I am just theorising that it could end
>> up that way.
>>
>> I am thus wondering if proper Seperation of Powers should be
>> a criterion for full members of the PPI. A decision of this
>> kind on international level would probably catalise the
>> necessary reforms to make some PP's more functional than
>> they currently are. I think there was some decision about
>> requiring proper internal democracy in PP's, but does that
>> imply a Separation of Powers?
>>
>> Just wondering if I am hitting a nail on the head or if I am
>> just trolling without knowing myself.
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
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