[pp.int.general] 'Liquid Democrazy': Pirate Party Sinks amid Chaos and Bickering

Nicolás Reynolds fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar
Sun Feb 24 09:42:08 CET 2013

Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Francisco George
> <francisco.george at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let us face the truth...we are all affected by the same virus!
>> https://twitter.com/SalernoMax/statuses/305344760963543040
>> http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-pirate-party-sinks-amid-chaos-and-bickering-a-884533.html
> It is kind of awkward to publicly discuss the German Pirate Party -
> but I actually also wanted to post this link - it is a very important
> thing.
> My comments:
> 1. We are all perhaps too much amateur - maybe we should read a bit
> more about theory of politics, study etc., maybe growing too fast
> deprives us the training that we get with a slower growth.
> 2. Maybe we are really trying something impossible by fighting the
> 'iron law of oligarchy':
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy - maybe we should
> accept it as a reality, analyze it and try to make it a smaller effect
> it instead of trying to have politics completely democratic.
> 3. The German Pirate Party had a huge success - so a little retraction
> is only a healthy sign.
> 4. Finally I always had the feeling that the PPDE was kind of too populist.

why is liquid feedback nonbinding? this has always been a big wtf for
me... (also the concept of liquid democracy :P)

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