[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

[Zbigniew Łukasiak]

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Tom Behets <behets at gmail.com> wrote:
> Some days ago, a non pirate told me her idea of the Pirate party.
> She said pirate party is constantly co-opted by all sorts of leftist
> interest groups to push their agenda.
> I feel the same.
>
> We should stick to our core issues.
> If you aim for everything, you get nothing...

So why do you think it is outside of the core issues?  I see it as a
system simplifying idea - and this feels to me as a very pirate way of
thinking about the state.

Z.


>
> Tom
>
> On 12 Jul 2013 15:26, "Zbigniew Łukasiak" <zzbbyy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Basic income is often mentioned as point of the pirates program.  Do
>> you think it is a universal thing across all pirate parties - or is it
>> just the German pirates that stand strongly behind it?
>>
>> Do you think it is leftist?
>>
>> Personally I support Basic Income.  It might be viewed as slightly
>> leftist - but if it is introduced together with a linear taxation
>> scale and getting rid of unemployment benefits - then it is not
>> leftist at all.  For me the most important aspect of this whole
>> package is that it makes governance simpler.  Taxation is decoupled
>> and can be payed independently for all income sources and the state is
>> not forced to do things that depend too much on personal circumstances
>> (like checking if the person is really unemployed and if he really
>> tries to find a job etc) - state is not good in these - people quickly
>> learn how to fool it and that is demoralizing.  But state is good for
>> universal services - like paying everyone the same amount.  So let the
>> state do what it is good at and let other, smaller organizations do
>> other things.
>>
>> There are of course many other benefits as well - but this is what
>> moves me personally.
>>
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>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
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