[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

illunatic at greenpirate.org illunatic at greenpirate.org
Fri Jul 12 22:15:02 CEST 2013

Instead of imposing it as a platform, a given party should get an idea  
of whether people in their country support basic income. Get the  
public discussion going before coming to a conclusion one way or the  
other. If that is what your people want, especially party members and  
supporters, then that is a good time for party leaders to talk about  
making it a platform.

Consider the the following:
- Is there adequate awareness and open discussion of this issue in  
your country?
- Do current members of your party support this?
- Do enough citizens in your nation support this position that it  
would increase overall support for your party?

If the answer is none/not much/not many, it may not be a good time to  
firmly embrace this as a platform. The exception to this, of course,  
is if you run a very authoritarian party in which you are prepared to  
dictate and proceed with any given platform, regardless of what your  
peers think.

Quoting Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>:

> Basic income is often mentioned as point of the pirates program.  Do
> you think it is a universal thing across all pirate parties - or is it
> just the German pirates that stand strongly behind it?
> Do you think it is leftist?
> Personally I support Basic Income.  It might be viewed as slightly
> leftist - but if it is introduced together with a linear taxation
> scale and getting rid of unemployment benefits - then it is not
> leftist at all.  For me the most important aspect of this whole
> package is that it makes governance simpler.  Taxation is decoupled
> and can be payed independently for all income sources and the state is
> not forced to do things that depend too much on personal circumstances
> (like checking if the person is really unemployed and if he really
> tries to find a job etc) - state is not good in these - people quickly
> learn how to fool it and that is demoralizing.  But state is good for
> universal services - like paying everyone the same amount.  So let the
> state do what it is good at and let other, smaller organizations do
> other things.
> There are of course many other benefits as well - but this is what
> moves me personally.
> --
> Zbigniew Lukasiak
> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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