[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

illunatic at greenpirate.org illunatic at greenpirate.org
Sat Jul 13 00:27:10 CEST 2013

I do think it is politically important to make this a divisible issue.  
As much as my ideal would be to see such "human parties", this sort of  
dichotomy is still more prevalent in the way people today choose to  
support a political party.

What comes first then, does Pirate Party take on this platform and  
work to get the public discussion going or does Pirate Party get the  
public discussion going first, see where the public is on the issue,  
allow time to poke holes in it and see if it stands and then support  
the issue? This is my chicken or the egg question. :)

Quoting Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>:

> Oh - discussion is fine with me and I fully support the democratic
> process you describe - but at some point we need to come out with a
> platform common to all the pirate parties.  So far what we have on
> that platform is just the name - but that is not enough to have any
> coherent movement.  I am testing where there can be some kind of
> consensus at least between the people on this list.  That consensus
> does not need to be perfect in everything - but at least most of us
> need to agree on every point and no one should disagree on more than a
> couple of points.  And those points also need to be meaningful as a
> political program - that is they need to be something that there are
> people that disagree with them - they need to be divisible - otherwise
> we should not call ourselves the pirate parties but maybe the human
> parties or something.
> Z.

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