[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

Antonio Garcia ningunotro at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 13 02:03:31 CEST 2013

My logical take at basic unconditional income has been expressed in another posting: http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2013-July/014506.html

It is a merely LOGICAL objection.

I'm afraid your attempt to sell the objection as a leftist one does not do justice to the impetus with which leftist collectives are supporting the measure.

Your nonsequitur is inconsequent and based on false premises.

The logical limit for wages offered by companies is only the fact that one expects to get at least exactly until the last day of the month with a monthly salary, and almost nothing else.

Who would like to work for a company and have nothing to eat from the 15th of the month onwards?

As almost all companies compete to accumulate profits for their shareholders...

... as soon as getting to the end of the month has no longer to be provided for by the companies... they get rid of the ethical problem of licensing people, and will do so en masse.

Plus, they shift from getting people to the end of the month, to merely giving people the smallest extra enough of them will accept so the necessary jobs can get done.

I am immediately reminded of the female characters in "Soylent Green" :( .

Soylent Green may well be in general the future of inconditional basic income.


> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:22:03 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into	the	pirate ideology?
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>     It depends. A common leftist objection on basic income is that it
>     enables "unethical evil company" to offer jobs for very very very low
>     wages.
> That is a nonsequitur.  What stops companies from offering jobs on
> very very low wages is that (1) people are not interested and (2) the
> minimum wage law.
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