[pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the pirate ideology?

[Francisco George]

The PP-ES stands in favour of Basic Income.

Actually there are already states that have BI implented.

Alaska
Some Arab emirates, but just for their nationals(emigrants are not included)

20 years ago a political party in Belgium started to defend this and got
some hype.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivant
https://www.facebook.com/pages/vivant/60132009232
http://www.vivanteurope.org/?lang=en

As he was founded by a Millionaire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Duch%C3%A2telet in Belgium and due to
their alliance with Liberals, they have been considered a Center-right
movement,

It is classified as "Progressive Liberalism" also known as "Social
Liberalism" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_liberalism

Roland Duchatelet, it's founder, was Belgian Senator from 2007 > 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Duch%C3%A2telet


The mixed(french/german) public tv has a special dossier about it
http://future.arte.tv/fr/sujet/le-revenu-de-base-promesse-dun-avenir-meilleur
(sorry
just available in German or French)


2013/7/13 <illunatic at greenpirate.org>

> Kind of have to agree with that as I recently cut back to two days at my
> current job because I need more time available to do other things which pay
> more. They job was more than minimum wage, but not enough to fit my lavish
> lifestyle (sarcasm).
>
> Quoting Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>:
>
>  Oh, yeah! Instead of being 50 units short to get to the end of the month,
>> people would prefer to have nothing at all. Might be an option for people
>> that do not accumulate fixed cost in their aim of running their life, like
>> mortgages and such.
>>
>> I love intelligent comment and cheer it when I see some ;) .
>>
>>
>>  From: me at travismccrea.com
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:40:15 -0400
>>> To: pp.international.general@**lists.pirateweb.net<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Basic income - how does that fit into the
>>> pirate ideology?
>>>
>>> I have never heard of this argument? in reality it has no basis. If a
>>> company was paying you less than basic income, you would just not take the
>>> job, or you could quit the job.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2013-07-12, at 10:06 AM, Cal. wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 12 July 2013 15:38, Betiel <betielix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Personally I believe having a basic income helps to avoid abuses from
>>> some
>>> >> unethical companies.
>>> >
>>> > It depends. A common leftist objection on basic income is that it
>>> > enables "unethical evil company" to offer jobs for very very very low
>>> > wages.
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