[pp.int.general] OTR Chatting en mass?

[Aftermath]

chunks of encrypted otr messages could could be split into multiple 140
character blobs, could it not?


On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Logic, ethic, and justice, nor philosophy do propagate adequately limited
> to 140 character blobs to code ideas.
>
> But of course, if all you want the masses to say is:
>
> "Me monkey. You give banana?" then you still provide margin for progress
> :( .
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:21:30 -0700
> From: aftermath.thegreat at gmail.com
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] OTR Chatting en mass?
>
> WHAT THE MASSES REALLY NEED
>
> is an application that allows you to text message (sms) with OTR made for
> iOS, android windows phone and symbian and black berry OS.
>
> Most laypersons on the street use simple text messages (sms) and have
> either iOS or android platforms.
>
>
> anyone on the OTR mailing list?
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Jack Allnutt <
> j.allnutt at pirateparty.org.uk> wrote:
>
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> On 11/07/2013 21:04, Richard Stallman wrote:
> >     It also looks like the client will be open source but not free
> software.
> >
> > What specific facts is that conclusion based on?
>
> Their FAQ. They use the term "open source":
>
> *Will it be Open Source?*
>
> We have all intentions of opening up the source as much as possible for
> scrutiny and help! What we really want people to understand however, is
> that Open Source in itself does not guarantee any privacy or safety. It
> sure helps with transparency, but technology by itself is not enough. The
> fundamental benefits of Heml.is will be the app together with our
> infrastructure, which is what really makes the system interesting and
> secure.
>
> But further down they state:
>
> *Your server only?*
> Yes! The way to make the system secure is that we can control the
> infrastructure. Distributing to other servers makes it impossible to give
> any guarantees about the security. We?ll have audits from trusted third
> parties on our platforms regularily[sic], in cooperation with our community.
>
> This in combination with another answer:
>
> *Will you provide an API and/or allow third party clients?*
> At this point we don?t see how that would be possible without compromising
> the security, so for now the answer is no.
>
>
> leads me to conclude that it wouldn't allow the end-user to exercise her 4
> freedoms, specifically #1. Of course they could just be talking about their
> back-end, but I struggle to see how they would exclude forked versions
> effectively if the client was completely free.
>
>
> > It is possible for a
> > program to be open source but not free software, but it is extremely
> > unusual in an application.
>
> Is there that much of a difference between a program and an application,
> other than the packaging?
>
>
> >   A priori, a misunderstanding is more
> > likely.  Could this be a misunderstanding?
>
> Perhaps, but I am sceptical.
>
> - -- Jack
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