[pp.int.general] fyi movie2k

[Antonio Garcia]

It was. If what you say now is what you really meant... you used very unprecise wording (maybe thinking that your precise thoughts would telepatically carry over somehow).

As I am more concerned about the general dynamics of voting processes, I focussed more on the trouble that would come our way.

As for the actual trouble at hand, the unwarranted redirection, I know how it works out. I witnessed such a thing when Hacktivists campaigned against Sinde Law in Spain, and many download sites suddenly blackened out redirecting their public to the campaign blog for an explanation without warning. First time I learned there is a cap of 5.000 mostly stupid comments on Wordpress postings... several days in a row :( .

And people do not really listen to your secret wishes. Consider Spain... 6 officially registered pirate parties... and I still have to register mine after breaking away from PP-ES after their unworthy behaviour in Kazan.


Antonio.


> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:49:11 +0200
> From: pirate at valio.ch
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net; ningunotro at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] fyi movie2k
> 
> Ahoy Antonio,
> 
> Was your criticism targetted at my message?
> If so I don't really get it.
> What I said was, that people should be encouraged to start a pirate  
> party *IF* there is none yet in their territory.
> 
> I agree that if there is a treshold for elections, small parties -  
> where one might be a pirate party - are hardly succesful in getting  
> into it. I personally hope that in those cases small parties are  
> considering to merge up in order to remove those static tresholds.  
> They do nothing good at all, but to distort the will of the people. I  
> have not seen yet any reason for them that is sound IMO; but I'm not  
> going into details here as it is OT.
> 
> -pat
> 
> Zitat von Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>:
> 
> > That is a very stupid idea, unless what you want is to maneuver most  
> > of the protest votes directly to the dust bin of the "democratic"  
> > elections.
> >
> > With an electoral treshold of 5%, it only takes 20 little parties  
> > getting to 4,9% of the vote... to spoil 98% of the legitimate vote  
> > and get absolute majorities with whatever little you can still  
> > concentrate as captive vote.
> >
> > What one needs is to be the only extremely convincing with ones own  
> > party, so that the protest vote does concentrate... but it should be  
> > tough if too many think up to that level.
> >
> > Pirates are not actually rewarding intelligent thinking... and it  
> > shows in the results.
> >
> >
> >
> > Antonio.
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:29:50 +0200
> >> From: pirate at valio.ch
> >> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] fyi movie2k
> >>
> >> Congrats and thanks for being thoughtful to point at the list of
> >> pirate parties! :-)
> >>
> >> One way to be even been bolder, would be to ask people to start their
> >> own party if they think that none exists (and probably link to
> >> http://wiki.pp-international.net/Best_practices_for_creating_a_party )
> >>
> >> -pat
> >>
> >> Quoting Markus Drenger <markus.drenger at piratenpartei-hessen.de>:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > an unknown person has redirected the domain movie2k.to to the german
> >> > pirate party. In order to answer 8.6 million requests a day we assembled
> >> > a small site http://www.movie2k.to/#en
> >> >
> >> > sincerely,
> >> > Markus
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