[pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?

[Gregory Engels]

Nobody could explained it to you, 

dear Patrik, 

because it is simply not true. 

ALL PPI Mailinglists are run on own infrastructure. 

But if you have any concerns about that this could obstruct any intelligence agency from 
reading the contents of that list, I must ensure you, that all communication (including 
and especially of political nature) is public, and everybody with a valid email address
can subscribe to all lists, including an email hosted on google 

sincerely yours, 

Gregory Engels
Co-Chairman
Pirate Parties International

mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
skype:gregory.engels
jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
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On 07.06.2013, at 13:13, Patrick Godschalk <patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl> wrote:

> Let me just reiterate this email which has been sent on April 
> 18th (that is over two months ago) but without any single 
> response to date.
> 
> Not that I'm actually an expecting a response this time around 
> but I figured it was fitting considering the PRISM program all 
> over the news.
> 
> Anyways, thanks PPI, for sending all of our political 
> conversations to the US intelligence agencies for years!
> 
> -- 
> Patrick Godschalk 
> patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl 
> GPG: 86DF FF6F B123 EEF8 AE43 E652 33C0 785F A15F 01AA (SHA-1) 
> This e-mail is under the CC0 Public Domain Dedication. 
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Patrick Godschalk <patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl>
>> Subject: [pp.int.general] Really now?
>> Date: April 18, 2013 14:55:04 GMT+02:00
>> To: <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>> Reply-To: patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl, Pirate Parties International -- General Talk <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>> 
>> Can someone explain to me why mails that are sent to a Pirate Party
>> organisation are stored with Google, scrubbed for profiling and stored
>> on a US server that falls under the Patriot Act?
>> 
>> ...Really?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> alderaan:~ argure$ dig pp-international.net mx
>> 
>> ; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> pp-international.net mx
>> ;; global options: +cmd
>> ;; Got answer:
>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22368
>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 12
>> 
>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>> ;pp-international.net.		IN	MX
>> 
>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	20 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	20 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	10 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
>> 
>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	NS	ns20.domaincontrol.COM.
>> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	NS	ns19.domaincontrol.COM.
>> 
>> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
>> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.	179	IN	A	173.194.67.26
>> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.	281	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:400c:c03::1a
>> ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 86	IN	A	173.194.70.27
>> ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 215	IN	A	173.194.69.26
>> ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 170	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:4008:c01::1b
>> ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	220	IN	A	173.194.70.27
>> ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	2	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:4001:c02::1a
>> ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	64	IN	A	173.194.69.27
>> ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	115	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:4008:c01::1b
>> ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	183	IN	A	74.125.143.26
>> ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	18	IN	A	74.125.141.27
>> ns19.domaincontrol.COM.	46730	IN	A	216.69.185.10
>> 
>> ;; Query time: 30 msec
>> ;; SERVER: 62.238.255.69#53(62.238.255.69)
>> ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 18 14:49:30 2013
>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 509
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> 
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