[pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?

[Tom Behets]

OK, I want to volunteer setting up a private mail server for the PPI, if needed.
I also think this is important, choosing gmail as mail server is unacceptable for pirateparty.
Get in touch with me if this is wanted…


Tom



On 07 Jun 2013, at 18:32, Loïc Grobol <loic.grobol at gmail.com> wrote:

> I expect most of the subscribers to this ML agree with you. So far I
> saw less than ten problematic (read uselessly aggressive/offensive)
> people here, but those are making so much noise that the others won't
> even bother posting here (or even reading) anymore.
> 
> LG
> 
> On 7 June 2013 18:30, Travis McCrea <me at travismccrea.com> wrote:
>> Johan,
>> This is a message that I keep trying to spread on this mailing list. I am glad someone else understands the importance of unity.
>> 
>> Johan Karlsson wrote:
>>> Everyone, please, try to be nice to each other. We are all on the same
>>> team here, fighting for the same goal.
>>> 
>>> Every time you send an angry email to this list someone is going to
>>> feel targeted and become a bit demoralized. Depending on who that is
>>> he or she will either be very sad after just a single email. Or
>>> perhaps the recipient of the email will only feel a tiny bit annoyed.
>>> But after a while all those tiny bits of annoyance will start to get
>>> to you and you wont find it fun to continue working for the movement.
>>> When that happens you either try to struggle on, but will feel the
>>> need to yell at others just to stay sane, or you will simply drop out
>>> of the Pirate party. Dropping out may actually then be the best thing
>>> for the movement as a whole as you at least stop spreading that bad mode.
>>> 
>>> I know its hard to get along, and especially in a large group like
>>> this there WILL be people you dont like, or perhaps even hate. The
>>> problem is that everyone feels the same way as you, but towards
>>> different people. I actually think that everyone on this list have at
>>> least two or three other people that hate him or her.
>>> I dont feel very good about that. Id really like to ask all of you to
>>> please consider what you are doing. When you write an angry email to
>>> someone Im sure you think you are doing good - taking a stand for a
>>> very important issue, such as for example this one with the emails
>>> being scanned by google and perhaps NSA. The problem is that there are
>>> hundreds, perhaps even thousands of issues that is just about as
>>> important as this one. And if we shall make someone feel bad or
>>> perhaps even leaving the movement for every single issue there soon
>>> wont be many pirates left to fix the issues at hand.
>>> 
>>> Im not asking you to be quiet about your opinions. They are really
>>> important and what makes us go forward as a movement. But Im begging
>>> you to, please, consider how you are phrasing yourself and please stop
>>> this mass bullying of all other pirates on this list. The future of
>>> the movement depends on it.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Johan Karlsson
>>> Member of the Swedish Pirate party
> 
> --
> Loïc Grobol.
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