[pp.int.general] pirate logo copyright

[Rackham]

Le 10 juin 2013 à 15:56, Maxime Rouquet a écrit :

> On 06/10/2013 01:23 PM, Jean Fleury wrote:
>> Dear Pirates,
>> 
>> Following no discussion and to everybody's surprise, we of the high
>> french pirate council have decided to copyright the name Parti Pirate
>> and the black sail logo with the INPI (inpi.fr).
>> pic.twitter.com/MCk34aEfmA 
>> 
>> We will not tolerate forks or ideological disagreement amongst us.
>> 
>> Ahoy,
>> Jean Fleury
> 
> Dear "Jean Fleury",
> 
> Please, read first this short text from Richard Stallman that reminds
> the need of not mixing up copyright, patents, trademarks and other stuff :
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html
> 
> Second, the Parti Pirate logo (not the black sail alone which is in
> public domain, the green and pink PARTI PIRATE logo) is indeed protected
> with _copyright_, but it has been the case since its drawing, and this
> is what enables the Creative Commons "BY" _licence_ on it.
> 
> As far as I know the PP does not wish to recognise copyright, patent or
> trademark on _ideas_, but it has long forbidden in its rules of
> procedure to anybody to present themselves or their organisation as a
> Pirate Party member if they do not respect the Pirate ideas. Therefore
> it is normal that it seeks to extend that protection to non-members also.
> 
> If you want to criticize something, please do it smartly. Protecting the
> name and the identity of the party is logical. Doing it by paying the
> Institut National de la Propriété Intellectuelle (French's WIPO
> equivalent) is more questionable.
> 
> Most people would answer to you developing on the fact that, as a
> political party aiming to change the law, you need to play by the
> existing rules first. But at least we would have a real debate.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Maxime
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And to complete things, as the original author of the french logo: I gave all ownership on the logo (save the sail of course) to the PPFR long ago publicly. In 2010 if I recollect well.

Under the French law I still own the "intellectual rights"* as I can't give/sell/rent/drink/smoke them, but don't tell it around. ;)

The use of INPI is questionable especially as it doesn't protect at all anyway, they "register" only but do not warrant the 

*in the french law meaning.

Denis Germain
PPFR co-founder, ex board, now caring about his orchids / PPS member
NO DADVSI - NO HADOPI - NO LOPPSI - NO INDECT