[pp.int.general] Moderated PPI discussion list

[Muriel Rovira Esteva]

Hello,

I fail to see how leaving this list as it is, and open a new one for people
who likes to discuss differently is censoring anyone in any way.  :)

In any case, it would be all the contrary, it would give the oportunity to
all those who may feel a bit intimidated here to say something to speak
their mind and participate.

Best regards,

              Muriel


2013/6/15 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>

> It would help A TON... not to get away unpunished with blackmail and
> breaches of the Statutes...
>
> ... it is very difficult to feel respectful sympathy for crooks that fuck
> the rules.
>
>
> Funny, this will be the second time you want things done right... AFTER
> consolidating benefits gathered doing things wrong.
>
> You can not ask for moderation against protest for things done wrong... to
> protect the consolidation of the benefits of your wrongdoing.
>
> That is nothing short of DICTATORIAL CENSORSHIP.
>
>
> You can have it, if the majority wishes it... but then the majority should
> grab for a mirror and see if it still recognizes a Pirate in the image.
>
>
> Antonio.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: muriel at pirata.cat
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:25:41 +0200
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: [pp.int.general] Moderated PPI discussion list
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I think is good that we keep this list unmoderated, for those who enjoy
> the rough style, but that we set up an alternative list open to everyone,
> but with a minimum set of mutual respect rules, for those who prefer to
> discuss without being insulted.
>
> This way we can benefit from everyone's contributions, and not only those
> who are tough enough to discuss in these terms or that have the know-how to
> set the adequate filters.
>
> In my experience, just knowing that there are some rules makes people much
> more respectful, which means that in practice rarely any moderation is
> needed.
>
> Would the PPI board be willing to adopt the task of maintaining such a
> moderated discussion list?
>
> Of course, the board would be free to delegate this task, but being an
> official PPI mailing list would mean that the board could always appoint a
> different responsible in case of conflict, or if the interest of the
> appointed responsible faded out with time. :-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Muriel
>
> valio at visionsinteractive.ch ha escrit:
>
> I would opt as well for an open, but moderated new list with different
> rules setup from the beginning, for those that prefer to avoid
>
> flamewars and insults.
>
> I think there should be a place for free troll and flamewar speech;
> trying to argue who and who isn't a troll i.e. should be kicked out is
> often like arguing who and who isn't a pirate.
>
> There were discussions in the past without almost any rules. I
> consider it difficult if not arbitrary to setup rules just like so. If
> rules are setup IMO it either should be decided by the list owner or
>
> in a sufficiently democratised process. Either one is not easily
> attainable; especially if contrasted with the possibility of setting
> up a new list.
>
> Furthermore I'd like to note, that for international coordinators and
>
> leaders already exists
>  an
> internal ML setup by PPI itself.
> And of course in most jurisdictions you usually also have the
> possibility to sue people that insult you or provide a platform for
> that; just in case you think it gets really unacceptable for you.
>
> That's the easy way. Given you are already certain someone wants to
> troll, insult or flame you without any honest intention, why argue
> with them? After all you're likely a digital native and should know
>
> better what works and what not.
>
> -pat
>
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