[pp.int.general] FORMAL COMPLAINT ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION/MODERATION OF PPI MAILING LISTS

Sat Jun 22 13:03:30 CEST 2013

This mailing list is one of the reasons why the pirate party of Finland
pretty much completely ignores the PPI. It's 99% just trolls and hotheads
in South-European parties fighting over everything and anything they can
pick a fight over. It's filled to the brim with personal issues that should
be kept in personal mails and all kinds of useless bullshit.

I'd prefer moderation, but not paying any attention whatsoever to PPI works
too in the mean while.

2013/6/22 Jelena Jovanovic <jelena.the.one at gmail.com>

> This is exactly what is going to happen.
> Honestly, i would not be happy to see anyone stepping out from this list
> because some people have problems that apparently escalate on ppint mailing
> list. Also i would like to avoid denying ppl to be exactly who they are.
> And i apologize for pprs contribution to the negative things here, we all
> slip off and get into the fight, its human. But dont be discouraged by that
> :) the only cure is to use ppint for good things as well and not let it be
> dominated by internal fights.  So called trolling is usually exression of
> extremely strong emotions and problems that are not solved.
> I would advise to all of you to keep using this list, and use it
> more....no forks needed, maybe a slight moderation with only ground rules,
> related to offensive wording and similar stuff
> Brgds
> Jelena jovanovic, pprs
> On Jun 15, 2013 3:06 AM, "Travis McCrea" <me at travismccrea.com> wrote:
>
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>> This is the internet, there so many people and communication is so easy
>> that if we don't enjoy the company of certain people or groups we can
>> easily fork and move on with our own group.
>>
>> Aftermath wrote:
>> > Why dont we just deal with it.
>> >
>> > This is the internet. Its not daycare. Bad things are said. Deal with
>> > it.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Maja Asanovic <asanovic09 at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:asanovic09 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Why don't we just migrate to a new list and leave this one to the
>> > trolls?
>> >
>> > Or make a a rule that if someone says 3 times something irritating
>> > like calling somebody "a boy" or offensive he/she simply gets kicked
>> > off the list.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Antonio Garcia
>> > <ningunotro at hotmail.com <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Showing you can be the bad boy once more Kenneth?
>> >
>> > Your lack of basic decency, and that of too many spineless others...
>> >
>> > ... is a disgrace for the whole Pirate Movement.
>> >
>> >
>> > No fucking little detail you are not ready to exploit to your
>> > advantage, huh?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > What is your agenda, boy?
>> >
>> >
>> > Antonio.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 22:50:42 +0200 From: kenneth at pirata.cat
>> >> <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat> To:
>> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> > <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>;
>> > co-chairmen at pp-international.net
>> > <mailto:co-chairmen at pp-international.net>; board at pp-international.net
>> > <mailto:board at pp-international.net>; coa at pp-international.net
>> > <mailto:coa at pp-international.net>
>> >> Subject: [pp.int.general] FORMAL COMPLAINT ABOUT THE
>> > ADMINISTRATION/MODERATION OF PPI MAILING LISTS
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> For months we've been flooded by mails from a bunch of guys
>> > with too much
>> >> spare time, working towards their own private agenda, without
>> > any kind of
>> >> support from their respective parties.
>> >>
>> >> This is fucking unacceptable.
>> >>
>> >> I am really angry with whoever is responsible for this mailing
>> > list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> These people are REGULARLY BULLING AND HARASSING OTHER
>> > PIRATES, and NOBODY
>> >> DOES A FUCKING THING IN ORDER TO STOP THIS:
>> >>
>> >> I am one of the regularly insulted ones, and this is gonna be
>> > my crusade
>> >> until something is done.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Options/Alternatives:
>> >>
>> >> - Push away people disturbing this mailing list (people
>> > without any kind
>> >> of support from their respective parties) - Create a new (open)
>> >> mailing list where ONLY PEOPLE
>> > AUTHORIZED BY THEIR
>> >> RESPECTIVE PARTIES CAN JOIN
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise this isn't the place where we could talk, share,
>> > coordinate and
>> >> make anything at all, and I loved the time when we could did
>> > so here
>> >> (remember Wikileaks-TF or MENA-countries-TF?).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is a formal complaint, and I want a formal reply from
>> > Bureau and CoA
>> >> at least.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Kenneth Peiruza
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