[pp.int.general] I had this dream once...

[Mozart Palmer]

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On 30 June 2013 08:50, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Do not waste your precious resources on something that improductive my
> friend, you have understood nothing.
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:21:22 +0200
> > From: davidd at piratenpartij.nl
> > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...
>
> >
> >
> > For people like you i have organised a special party.
> >
> > It's called the "bitter" party. only bitter people are allowed.
> >
> > We will party with coffee that has gone cold, black chocolate, brussels
> > sprouts and chicory (raw).
> >
> > people that still have a glimmer of hope left can go to Valio's party
> > instead. only embittered people are welcome at my party.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Antonio Garcia schreef op 29.06.2013 23:00:
> > > Brussels/Kazan did everything possible to kill that dream, as it
> > > can't
> > > be built on lies.
> > >
> > > Lies do not marry emotions all that well.
> > >
> > > Antonio.
> > >
> > >> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:37:43 +0200
> > >> From: pirate at valio.ch
> > >> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >> Subject: [pp.int.general] I had this dream once...
> > >>
> > >> ...of pirate woodstock
> > >>
> > >> a festival...
> > >> ...whose infrastructure is crowdfounded
> > >> ...where all financial requirements are openly visibly for everyone
> > >> ...where there is no clear line inbetween musicians and visitors,
> > > but
> > >> where everyone shall bring their cc0-ed [0] music, share it over
> > >> public wifi, remix with other and publish it
> > >> ...where everyone gets the chance by a random number generator to
> > >> promote their music (or art) in a way that ze finds suitable (pirate
> > >
> > >> radio, stage w/ streaming, remixed video, ...) and gets rewarded by
> > > a
> > >> Flattr-like-mechanism
> > >> ...which does not take place in a single country, but several; none
> > >> (or at least: not all) centrally organized if possible; by applying
> > > to
> > >> the rules stated above, you get on the stream channels of others and
> > >
> > >> are allowed to call yourself part of the event
> > >> ...that is as pirate as possible without getting way to illegal
> > >>
> > >> because
> > >> ...we don't need huge corporations to organize huge festivals
> > >> ...we don't need intermediaries that take profits in an amount that
> > > is
> > >> hardly eligible
> > >> ...we don't need anyone to tell who is worthy and who isn't
> > > depending
> > >> on current mainstream traits, which are nothing but remixes as all
> > > art
> > >> [1] without someone else playing a similar piece of music [2]
> > >> ...we want a world where you get a chance as an artist and are not
> > >> constantly told that your income problem is primary piracy (instead
> > > of
> > >> obscurity [3]), are often exploited (even if you're on the chart
> > > list
> > >> [4]) and are told you are producing "content" [5]
> > >> ...we want a world that is united in the cyberspace [6] and one is
> > > not
> > >> intended to be excluded by economical means
> > >> ...we need a counterculture instead of just reacting to news and
> > >> speaking about how we want the world
> > >>
> > >> Yes, I know this is not politics, but activism.
> > >> Yes, I know there are initiatives at a small level, which are hardly
> > > noticed.
> > >> Yes, I know this is probably beyond our possibilities and you'll
> > > call
> > >> me an utopian fool.
> > >>
> > >> But if we are to follow the way down, I'm afraid we loose the fun.
> > >> The fun that is necessary to bear with politics, not to forget why
> > > we
> > >> are here [7] and not getting just another movement that becomes
> > >> crusted very soon.
> > >>
> > >> -pat
> > >>
> > >> [0] Creative Commons - CC0 license
> > >> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
> > >> [1] Ferguson - Everything is a remix http://everythingisaremix.info/
> > >> [2] The Axis of Awesome - 4 Chords
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ
> > >> [3] Doctorow - the problem isn't piracy. the problem is obscurity.
> > >>
> > >
> > > http://www.write4kids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/doctorow.pdf
> > >> [4] Love - Courtney Love does the math
> > > http://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/
> > >> [5] Stallman - Words to avoid - Content
> > >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content
> > >> [6] Barlow - A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace
> > >> https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html
> > >> [7] Falkvinge - why are you here?
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCbRX1YEqrs
> > >>
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> >
> > --
> > Met vriendelijke groeten,
> > David van Deijk.
> > Kandidaat Tweede Kamer 2012,
> > Ledenraadslid 2013-
> > Piratenpartij Nederland
> > David.van.Deijk at piratenpartij.nl
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