[pp.int.general] Partido X - Partido del Futuro vs 5 Star Movement

[José Manuel Goig]

If they are really pirates then there is something that we are doing very
wrong in Spain. How many pirate parties are there in Spain nowadays? Four?
Five? And tomorrow? Seventeen? As many as Autonomous Communities?

But it doesn't matter how many pirate parties are there if we can't attract
the people who are looking for us.

Excuse me, but I'm leaving to found my own pirate party of my household.
I'm getting late and anybody could do it instead of me :P

Salut!
El 03/03/2013 12:43, "Dario" <i at dario.im> va escriure:

> What Eduardo said is absolutely true.
>
> There is only one public name, the one of the president in Spanish
> official registry:
> https://servicio.mir.es/nfrontal/webpartido_politico/partido_politicoDatos.html?nmformacion=4774(A popup will appear, it is how it works).
>
> In my opinion they are really pirates, just with different branding.
> Founders come from 15-M movement (Indignados) and they put together several
> independent initiatives like Democracy 4.0 (some kind of liquid democracy
> on Parliament), etc.
>
>
>
> 2013/3/3 Eduardo Robles Elvira <edulix at gmail.com>
>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Carlito <carlito at subvertising.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Similar to the other topic: can someone from Spain tell us a bit more
>> about
>> > the Partido X (Partido del Futuro)?
>> >
>> > I found their website and they are also making some benchmark analysis
>> with
>> > 5 Star Movement:
>> >
>> >
>> http://partidodelfuturo.net/movimiento-5-stelle-demuestra-que-es-posible/
>> >
>> > I’m curious to understand their internal structure because I can’t find
>> the
>> > common menu item “About Us”.
>> >
>> > Is it an anomymous association?
>> >
>> > In the FAQ in can read that they are not giving their names.
>> >
>> > Is it legal in Spain to do that?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Carlito
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Partido X is similar to M5S into that they have a good marketing
>> campaign behind them. They announced themselves with a viral campaign
>> (twitter, youtube videos etc) revolving around the idea that they're
>> "the party of the future", that "in the future, we have already won",
>> and that kind of stuff.
>>
>> But on the other side, it's the contrary with respect to public heads:
>> they people behind it is an anonymous closed group of people who don't
>> want to be known by their names but by their actions, in contrast with
>> Beppe Grillo being the prominent leader of the movement.
>>
>> It's not legal to have a legally valid and registered political party
>> in Spain with no registered board members, you at least need to have a
>> president (well, the title of the person is up to you, but there needs
>> to be at least one person). Partido_X does have a person who acts as a
>> president of their party, but it's only one and doesn't play a
>> prominent role. Even the actors that appear in the video were
>> contracted for the video but they are not leaders of the movement.
>> "hidden in plain sight" one might say.
>>
>> So it's all very confusing, which is part of their campaign I suppose.
>> It's something new and that attracts attention. They had quite good
>> exposure (appearing in TV etc) when they launched their campaign in
>> January, but we have heard little of them since then.
>>
>> They're doing things though, preparing a website for people to propose
>> items for their program, they have setup some kind of plan with
>> different stages for going to the elections, they are for transparency
>> (funny, ain't it?) and direct democracy, and their program in general
>> seems quite similar to the pirates itself I think.
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Eduardo
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