[pp.int.general] Minutes of PPI GA 2013

[Nuno Cardoso]

Seems pretty simple to me as well, both Andrew Norton and Arturo Martínez
are also elected members of the CoA and should be considered as such  even
if at the time there was a misinterpretation of the statutes.
Congratulations to both :)

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at ktetch.co.uk> wrote:

> "at 4:42:33 Sven says that 17 votes were recieved, the quorum is at 9
> votes and that those 5 candidates were elected"
>
> Rules of Proceedure
> (
> http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2013/GA_meeting/RoP#Art._6a_Elections
> )
> state
> Election Method
>
> a) Before the voting, the number of elected positions should be
> decided, if Statutes require to do so.
> b) Every Ordinary Member may vote "yes" for any number of candidates.
> c) The candidates that has achieved a simple majority of the "yes"
> votes from Ordinary Members present or represented and voting on
> them[18] are elected in the order determined by number of "yes" votes
> accumulated. Abstentions are not taken into account. In event of a tie
> where order matters, deciding elections are held, where only one "yes"
> vote per Ordinary Member can be cast.
> d) If the decided number(Art. 6a(6a)) of positions is not filled,
> additional round of elections is held unless decided otherwise.
>
> 8 YES 6 NO is a simple majority when abstentions are not taken into
> account (57%). Nothing about a decided 'quorum' in there (and in fact
> the unknown nature of abstentions mean you can't do it anyway) at all.
>
> Seems pretty simple to me.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Pat Mächler
> <patrick.maechler at pp-international.net> wrote:
> > The following is according to my visual observations on said recordings,
> > that I preliminary recieved
> > The times mentionned are relative to the video; not actual daytime
> >
> > at 4:30:20 the chair (Sven) announces that the ballot papers are prepared
> > and the he CoA vote
> > for the next 95 seconds Sven signs 16 voting cards (acoording to visual
> > calculation) and
> > hands out election ballot sheets to delegates and proxies along with the
> > chair assistant (Denis)
> >
> > at 4:32:10 Sven announces the vote to be open (for 4 minutes) and leaves
> the
> > recording picture
> > at 4:32:40 he re-enters to the recording picture (returns to the table to
> > answer questions)
> > at 4:33:10 he leaves the table again
> > at 4:35:00 he re-enters to the recording picture
> > at 4:36:30 Denis leaves the recording picture
> > at 4:36:40 Sven leaves the recording picture
> > around 4:37:23 Sven and Denis are entering and leaving the recording
> picture
> > within 5 seconds
> > at 4:42:00 the camera angle turns towards right; Sven and Denis can be
> seen;
> > about 50% of the chair table can be seen
> > at 4:42:20 they walk to the left side; Sven can't be seen anymore
> > at 4:42:25 Denis walks out of the recording picture
> > at 4:42:30 the camera turns right again (the chair table can be seen for
> > about 75%); Sven sits at the table
> > at 4:42:33 Sven says that 17 votes were recieved, the quorum is at 9
> votes
> > and that those 5 candidates were elected
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Pat Mächler
> > <patrick.maechler at pp-international.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> According to the election notes I have here, I strongly assume that the
> >> chair calculated with 17 votes cast and an absolute majority was
> necessary.
> >> However I got only 16 ballot papers.
> >> I assume the missing vote could be by the UK who decided to generally
> >> abstain; however there is no such sheet among the ballot papers (in
> contrast
> >> to all other elections, where there was a blank UK ballot sheet
> provided).
> >> I will back check ASAP with the preliminary video recordings I got from
> >> Wolfgang Preiss whether it could be inferred that UK cast an abstention
> vote
> >> there.
> >>
> >> -pat
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Mozart Palmer
> >> <mozart.palmer at pp-international.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is there a reason why there are only five members of the Court of
> >>> Arbitration elected? The statutes provide for up to seven, meaning that
> >>> Arturo and Andrew should be elected according to the results.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 16 May 2013 05:46, Pat Mächler <
> patrick.maechler at pp-international.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear pirates,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please find here the current status of the minutes of the PPI GA
> 2013. I
> >>>> would be grateful if you could provide corrections to me via mail.
> >>>> 4 weeks afterwards the minutes will be automatically accepted
> according
> >>>> to the RoP.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2013/GA_meeting/Minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> You can blame the delay on me; part of the problem was, that I wanted
> to
> >>>> back check the recordings about the member application ballots (they
> were
> >>>> too fast).
> >>>>
> >>>> fair winds
> >>>> Pat / Valio / vvv
> >>>>
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