[pp.int.general] Pirates classified under National Security rules in teh US

[Raymond Johansen]

Thank you to Andrew,PPUK for supplying us with good information. Saved me a
lot of research.

Cheers,

Raymond Johansen
Member PPNO, PPUK - Hacktivist


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM, <pirate at valio.ch> wrote:

> +1 to Andrew
>
> Zitat von Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>:
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>> On 9/11/2013 8:47 AM, Ryan Moffitt wrote:
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>>> Well, isnt that something... Ill submit a FOIA request for the USPP and
>>> the Florida PP. I ran for office from the FLPP so Im curious what, if
>>> anything they have on us.
>>>
>>
>> It's 'something' yes. However my understanding is that the 'something'
>> is 'the standard glomar response'
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Glomar_response<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_response>
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>> Here's some guidance on Privacy Glomaraization from 27 years ago
>> http://www.justice.gov/oip/**foia_updates/Vol_VII_1/page3.**htm<http://www.justice.gov/oip/foia_updates/Vol_VII_1/page3.htm>
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>> So, basically, you're asking for investigative records, and they won't
>> confirm or deny there are such (because confirming indicates there has
>> been some sort of investigation, while denying also confirms there
>> hasn't been)
>>
>> In reality, there's no 'story' here, and certainly no response that will
>> be obtained other than the same form letter.
>>
>> BTW, many of the things invovling the NSA are going to fall under one of
>> the exemptions from the 1976 Government in the Sunshine act
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Freedom_of_Information_Act_(**
>> United_States)#The_1976_**Government_in_the_Sunshine_**Act_amendments<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_(United_States)#The_1976_Government_in_the_Sunshine_Act_amendments>
>> )
>> which is why generally you have to sue to get anything more than a
>> glomar response, or a denial under the GITSA exceptions.
>>
>> So, unless you're ready to waste a lot of money on lawsuits, don't bother.
>>
>> Andrew
>> Spokesman, PPGA
>> Governor, PPUK
>>
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