[pp.int.general] Google Glass Out of USA

seykron seykron at partidopirata.com.ar
Tue Apr 15 05:41:59 CEST 2014

So, if you read my previous email and you agree (or at least you don't
block my proposal [1], or you don't care), I suggest a couple of pivot
questions to start thinking about technology from the pirate

a) What is the role of technology in the society?

b) What do we expect from technology?

c) Is the technology development a neutral practice?

We can start answering these questions and replying each other on the
base of a pirate friendship code. Feel free to add more questions to
the debate.



[1] You may want to take a look at the "Difficulties in Reaching
Consensus" section on this article: http://is.gd/V8gxaJ

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 00:23:27 +0000
pirate at valio.ch wrote:

> I agree with Andrew Norton to a large degree and I'm thankful him  
> siding actively with the pro-cyborg site.
> That's not so much the case with eduardo, but that doesn't mean that
> I don't see his point. Pirates should be careful not to embrace all  
> technology as it comes, but rather foster a better world for
> everyone beeing aware of the inevitable technological progress and
> embracing good opportunities, but foremost making society fit to cope
> with them by acting on a political level.
> I agree foremost with Matías.
> That's what I actually intended when I expressed me wanting a proper  
> debate on the issue.
> I think this debate would be a perfect idea for a public debate on  
> pirate issues between two opponents in order ot foster a topic which  
> almost certainly will affect pirate policies; preferably doing that
> on pirate times where the intent to do sth like that was discussed
> just last Saturday in Paris. What do you think
> @Andrew
> @eduardo
> Would you be willing to carry out such a debate if PirateTimes would  
> be willing and ready yet trying to attempt to do this?
> (can also be someone else, as long as they do carry opposite points
> on cyborgs)
> To explain: The idea is that one journalists attempts to moderate
> "as neutrally as possible" in order to minimize flame and ad hominem  
> attack in the discussion which don't foster an overall public pirate  
> debate on the issue at hands. Foremost the weapon of choice should
> be the reasonable argument based on what you personally deem pirate  
> values. Having two opponents doesn't hinder from commenting on the  
> arguments brought forward, but avoids a discussion which dissolves  
> into noise by too many side-discussions.
> The difference between a discussion on the list and on pirate times  
> would simply be, that this should be more focused and likely has a  
> broader visibility as well.
> Also @eduardo you would certainly be helped with English problems. ;)
> Disclaimer: this is a personal stunt. I've been accepted once as
> part of the ppnews team but haven't been very active. This is a
> suggestion out of the blue, without asking for backing by the team
> (it's not an official pirate times suggestion!). We might still have
> to convince some people even if @Andrew and @eduardo would agree :-)
> [but I don't think that there is a hurdle that couldn't be overcome].
> -pat
> Zitat von eduardo at partidopirata.com.ar:
> > My english is so bad. I apologize.
> > I think that we should have had some criticism about technology.
> > All of us knows that Google, Facebook, and others send all the  
> > information to the NSA and so on.
> > So, if anyone is using Google Glass they may be indirectly
> > monitoring us.
> >
> > Here is some about what is happening in San Francisco with Google  
> > and Google Glass:
> >
> > http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/14/tech/mobile/google-glass-attack/index.html?sr=sharebar_facebook
> >
> > And an interest event in London about technology:
> >
> > http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2356698/its_time_to_get_a_grip_on_technology.html
> >
> > "The issues surrounding powerful new technologies from GMOs to  
> > nuclear power appear disparate, writes David King - but look
> > harder and most are linked by common threads. Key among them are
> > issues of profit, control and socialisation of cost ..."
> >
> > Best Regards
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