[pp.int.general] LQFB: status quo in Germany // was: liquid feedback papers and/or data?

Félix Robles felrobelv at gmail.com
Sun Apr 27 14:53:25 CEST 2014

Let the dude speak for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

Jokes aside, I am not a party candidate, nor I desire to be. I am just a
base member of a political party. It's the candidates, and the members with
public roles inside the party and in public offices, that need to be held
accountable for their choices. When I am for example choosing a candidate
for president, or when I am voting for or against a proposition inside the
party, I am not acting as a public figure and I do not need to be held
accountable for my vote by anyone except myself and my conscience.

No, I am sorry but I do not agree. I might be a member of a political party
but that doesn't mean I am assuming a public role. You should ask yourself
if citizens should make their vote public when they vote in a national
referendum (because it's basically the same as what I am doing).

On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:39 PM, carlo von lynX <lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org
> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 02:26:23PM +0200, F?lix Robles wrote:
> > This is a false dichotomy. If you are a delegate/representative, of
> course
> > you are being a politician and of course your vote should be public. But
> if
> > you are just voting (or delegating your vote into someone), a secret
> ballot
> > is a good thing: no one needs to know your vote, no one can force you to
> > vote one way or another.
> You are not the general population electing people into parliament.
> You are members of a political party taking decisions for the way
> the party acts and the political choices it makes. Voting in secret
> on these things is a spit in the face of transparency. You should
> ONLY use secret votes when electing human people into roles that
> cannot be modified over a longer arch of time - that is when you
> are forced to support representative democracy, which is the case
> in the countries we live in.
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