[pp.int.general] LQFB: status quo in Germany // was: liquid feedback papers and/or data?

seykron seykron at partidopirata.com.ar
Sun Apr 27 17:18:38 CEST 2014

Yes, I think we all agree on that :)

I would like to add that I think it is important to continuously
reflect on some key questions about our pirate parties. Democracy is
not something you reach and keep safe without continuous effort. Some
questions should be answered by each pirate party because it depends on
each society (german, italian, french, polish, chilean, argentinian,
and other societies have very different idiosyncrasies though we share a
lot of thing because we are human beings and we live in a tightly
connected world).

Some questions I have in mind:

1. What does "binding" means?
2. What does "legitimation" means?
3. Why people are or are not participating?
4. How the party is tied to the community?
5. Is my local party really involved in problems related to the

These questions cannot be answered only in one-way. I personally don't
think that liquid feedback can improve democracy in the way I think
these questions are answered, but at the end of the day it depends on
what the community wants: that's the key. Nobody will be forced to
participate in top-down mechanisms established by a small group of



On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:32:49 +0200
carlo von lynX <lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 04:05:38PM +0200, Eduardo Robles Elvira wrote:
> > Technical-oriented people like me tend to identify "problems" and
> > propose technical solutions. But that does not always work. Many
> > times a social problem cannot be solved with a technical solution
> > (though it might help sometimes). This cannot be stressed enough.
> Yes, sometimes a software cannot handle the problem. In those cases
> you should try to find regulations that describe the problem and
> an architecture of justice that enforces the fix to the problem.
> Pirate Parties have allowed loudmouthed people to be loud and put
> a strain on democratic processes, then let other loudmouthed people
> question the democratic processes themselves because of that.
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