[pp.int.general] [pp-leaders.discussion] On the legitimacy of the upcoming General Assembly

Fri Dec 19 21:01:22 CET 2014

Well, that's odd, because
a) It was posted publicly at the time (which is what I responded to)
http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2014-April/015230.html
b) It was the subject of some debate at the time.
c) unless the board habitually interferes in the affairs of the CoA, it
was not something sent directly to the board. It was, however published
publicly (see A) in a forum you have clearly demonstrated you actively
monitor, thus I can only assume you're attempting to indicate wilful
ignorance of the matter, which bodes poorly on you.

It does not reflect well on either the competence of the Board, and on
the stated aims of the PPI and its ability to act on them.

Andrew

> 
> It is news for us.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Thomas
> acting as CAO PPI
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pp-leaders.discussion
> [mailto:pp-leaders.discussion-bounces at lists.pp-international.net] Im Auftrag
> von Andrew Norton
> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Dezember 2014 02:48
> An: international at piratenpartij.nl
> Cc: pp-leaders.discussion at lists.pp-international.net;
> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Betreff: Re: [pp-leaders.discussion] [pp.int.general] On the legitimacy of
> the upcoming General Assembly
> 
> Dear PPNL
> 
> It has been more than 8 months since your complaint was filed.
> 
> Have you had a response back yet, as I've not heard of one. I certainly hope
> it's been dealt with and the announcement just slipped past me, rather than
> it being ignored.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On 4/10/2014 3:13 PM, internationaal at piratenpartij.nl wrote:
>> Dear members of PPI,
> 
>> As the accompanying letter shows, Piratenpartij (Pirate Party
>> Netherlands) has requested a ruling from the Court or Arbitration on 
>> the matter of the legitimacy of this General Assembly.
> 
>> We have not taken this decision lightly, or spitefully, but to ensure 
>> sound democratic practices are upheld.
> 
>> As the statutes show, under Article X the General Assembly has a wide 
>> array of responsibilities within PPI. In order for the General 
>> Assembly to address these responsibilities, there must be due time for 
>> deliberation. Furthermore, time must be provided for the constitutuent 
>> parties to inform themselves of the alternatives available and the 
>> decisions at hand. There is not a single stipulation to be found under 
>> article X which does not suffer fatally from this late notice and 
>> general air of non-communication.
> 
>> To our dismay we observe that a mere two days before the start of the 
>> event, there are just six candidatures, and still no proposals to be 
>> found on the wiki aside from Nuno's. How can there be any informed 
>> decision making process under these conditions, let alone transparent 
>> and inclusive decision-making? It is a tale fit for the sort of 
>> politicians we hope to uproot.
> 
>> Furthermore, we note that the late notice has robbed members of the 
>> opportunity to propose statute amendments, and potential members from 
>> applying for membership.
> 
>> We are concerned about the air of non-communication that surrounds PPI.
>> If things are as quiet as they seem from a distance, there is little 
>> reason for PPI to exist. If there are things happening, we propose 
>> these are moved into an inclusive and transparent modus operandi as 
>> soon as possible. Particularly, discussions surrounding the policies 
>> and strategical goals of PPI and tactical methods of achieving those 
>> are nowhere to be found, even though they form the essential building 
>> blocks of any organisation. This is a concise way of saying that there 
>> is no plan or direction to be found.
> 
>> We are equally concerned that most candidatures hitherto are from the 
>> German Pirate Party, which does little to establish the view of PPI as 
>> an international organisation. Here too, it is essential that PPI does 
>> not constrict itself to a handful of information bubbles, and that 
>> inclusive and transparent practices are fundamental to maintaining an 
>> international organisation of our nature.
> 
>> With this we hope to have adequately informed you of our motivations.
> 
>> On behalf of Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands),
> 
>> Henk Heslinga
>> Chairman
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands)
> 
>> Steven Russchenberg
>> Board member International Affairs
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands)
> 
>> Gijs Peskens
>> Acting International Coordinator
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands)
> 
> 
>> Mail to CoA:
> 
>> Dear Court of Arbitration,
> 
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands) requests a ruling on the 
>> matter of the legitimacy of the General Assembly to be held in Paris 
>> on the 12th and 13th of April 2014.
> 
>> Piratenpartij believes the statutory requirements were not met in the 
>> organisation of this event, namely:
> 
>>     9.7: Meetings of the General Assembly will be announced at least 
>> five weeks prior to the meeting. The invitation will be sent out by 
>> the Board to all Members and published on the homepage of Pirate 
>> Parties International website.
> 
>> Our motivation will be stipulated in an accompanying letter.
> 
>> Yours sincerely,
> 
>> Henk Heslinga
>> Chairman
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands)
> 
>> Steven Russchenberg
>> Board member International Affairs
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands)
> 
>> Gijs Peskens
>> Acting International Coordinator
>> Piratenpartij (Pirate Party Netherlands)
> 
>> ____________________________________________________
>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk 
>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> 
> 
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