[pp.int.general] Antonio - do you want to work with us in organizing this movement?

Betiel betielix at gmail.com
Thu Jun 5 20:19:01 CEST 2014


I totally disagree.
If the court of arbitration was not working properly, it concerns all of
us. Therefore is not a matter for a private conversation.

Betiel


2014-06-05 14:06 GMT-03:00 Andrianos Pappas <adrian.ppgr at gmail.com>:

> Wtf, this is all stuff for personal correspondence and talks, not for
> international lists.
> So if you could all just stfu, and focus on real life things, such as
> #resetthenet, it'd be awesome.
>
> On June 5, 2014 7:53:03 PM EEST, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 18:36:18 +0200
>> > From: zzbbyy at gmail.com
>> > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Antonio - do you want to work with us in
>> organizing this movement?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Jesus, can I talk to someone competent?
>> > >
>> > > Do I really have to spell everything out not to waste six months
>> explaining
>> > > the obvious?
>> > >
>> > > Can I take obvious things for obvious, or am I still talking in
>> > > KinderGarten?
>> >
>> > I can see you are very frustrated - but I don't quite understand what
>> > you are referring to - sorry.
>> >
>> > Are you disagreeing with me - or with someone else in this thread?
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I meant the FIRST ruling of the CoA ABOUT Pirates d e Catalunya full
>>
>> > > membership, which is the subject WE were talking about. Not the first
>> ever
>> > > ruling of that particular class of Court of Arbitration.
>> > >
>> >
>> > OK - I was also talking about this case - so I guess that burst of
>> > frustration was about something else.
>>
>> No, you weren't, damnit...
>>
>> "Right - the Court of Arbitration ruling was wrong.
>>
>>
>> But in fact the CoA could not rule that the very GA that elected them
>> is invalid. The only ruling it could logically do is to rule that this
>> is outside of its competence. And the current one also cannot nullify
>> the chain of events that lead to its election - because it would also
>> make itself invalid and thus also the very decision."
>>
>>
>> That was about the supposition that the CoA can not rule as invalid the
>> occasion at which it has been elected because then it would rule itself
>> invalid. A very
>> simplistic line of thought in itself that has however
>> nothing to do with the ruling about the catalans.
>>
>> Be more accurate, more inteligent, more competent. Or let somebody with
>> more cualifications handle this.
>>
>> There is too much really basic stuff you do not seem to understand or
>> even pay attention to. You are not being a good ambassador for the
>> Pirate cause.
>>
>>
>>
>> > > Thay one Court of Arbitration has proven to be absolutely
>> incompetent, all
>> > > the way, in even the most trivial of rulings.
>> > >
>> > > By the way, the spokesperson for the actual one is not showing much
>> aptitude
>> > > either, reading his comments:
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://samedokan.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/when-pirates-do-prefer-censorship/
>> > >
>> > > And I am still kept waiting. Luckily, I reduced possible damage to a
>> minimum
>> > > as only Julia Reda got a seat in the European Parliament... results
>> could
>> > > have been far better if I had worked towards good results rather than
>> > > against because nobody left me better options.
>> >
>> > So you admit that you are working against pirate parties political
>> success?
>>
>> You are a very bad craftsman trying to get a confession for the #Pirate
>> #Inquisition :(.
>>
>> I have already said what I have said, and done what I have done.
>>
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> > Z.
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