[pp.int.general] Swarm management

Sat Mar 1 17:50:57 CET 2014

Hi Lisa and others,

I consider this issue to be very important; good management of ressources
would cause all of us to overcome this problem that some initiatives fail due
to not reaching the critical mass. So to keep it simple: It would make us much,
much stronger.

>From my point of view we should join forces in order to develop 3 systems,
first of all:

An international web based system for "work flow and getting things done";
so, something like GitHub, but just for coordinating political work.
You know that I was heavily involved into the copywrongs initiative; what I
really missed was a point where all pirate parties vitally come together; so
a point with which you effectively reach all pirate parties; it was especially
hard to reach out to the pirate parties in the UK, Italy, Sweden and Cyprus.
So, maybe as a first measure it would help, if one works towards a change,
that all pirate parties synchronize a vital part of their message board or mailing list with
the sub message boards on http://www.pp-international.net/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=76
and making their sub message boards there openly available; it's really not
a good idea to have one's respective message board closed on pp-international.net.
It also wouldn't harm to synchonize the topic sub message boards of pp-international.net
like for instance "copyright" with all pirate parties respective message boards or mailing lists.
I guess for reaching this short term aim, it's necessary to approach all
message board admins of the respective pirate parties.
But as already indicated in the beginning this is just a short term solution; on
a bigger time scale we should elaborate this.

2ndly, we have the same issue like the EU: We don't have one EU wide pirate basis,
which talks with each other. The aforementioned short term solution also would help
regarding this issue.
The long term solution, however, would be something much more fancy than this;
it would be an international web based discussion system - so, a system which is made for
all around optimizing discussion culture (re-structuring discourse, so that there won't
be that endless repepititions anymore; working against fragmentation of the discourse;
sorting discourse not chronologically but by content). I know at least one work group within
the pirate party, which works at this construction site:
http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG_Meinungsfindungstool - so, if you know anyone
else within the pirate party who works at developing a discussion system, plz send
them to this work group ^^ - their sub message board: https://news.piratenpartei.de/forumdisplay.php?fid=438 ...

And 3rdly - also long term aim - it would be really good, if we had an international web based resolution system; so,
something like a EU or global LQFB, but just a bit more sophisticated, and especially satisfing highest demands regarding
democracy, pricacy/data protection, accessability for people with less time, and interface design...
I consider that really not easy to tackle this; currently some pirate parties have different web based resolution systems,
some of them really need an update, and then we also have a lot of pirate parties with no such systems.
In several pirate parties I've seen working groups for the respective web based resolution systems - they all have
in common, that they don't really interact internationally; so also for them it would be a good idea to join forces ^^ ...
and besides that it obviously needs developing work for setting up structures for other pirate parties, who don't
have the ressources for doing it by their own... maybe it needs something like a first aid helping kit for structure issues ^^ ...

So, well... that's my impression of it all ^^ ...

Greetings,
/ aka Oliver

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: Lisa <lisa at piratenpartij.nl>
Datum: 01.03.2014 10:44:29
An: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk 	<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
Betreff: [pp.int.general] Swarm management

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> Dear pirates,
>
> I don't think I've ever really introduced myself, so allow me to start
> there. :)
>
> My name is Lisa and I'm a volunteer with the dutch Pirate Party,
> PP-NL. I've taken on the responsibility to be the editor of our monthly
> newsletter and I'm the coordintator of our HRM (or rather: managing
> the swarm) through our taskforce 'Organisation'. I have a way with
> people that allows me to connect relatively easily and I usually try
> to stay away from political debates in order to maintain a neutral
> position, most of the time. Both these things allow me to do my job in
> a relatively uncomplicated fashion, allowing me to facilitate in the
> scaffolding for the dutch swarm to grow and thrive on.
>
> That said, I've also pretty much been the only person doing this in
> our party for the past few months and although I'm a hard worker and I
> don't mind setting things up on my own, I also realize that one person
> can't know it all. I would hate for my inexperience to be holding back
> our party and this is why I'm reaching out to you, the international
> community of pirates.
>
> I'd like to set up some kind of international group of people involved
> with swarm management, to offer each other advice when needed,
> deliberate about questions we all deal with, share some of our
> experiences and generally learn from each other. I'm sure all parties
> are different in some ways and we'll have fun exploring some of the
> different approaches together as well.
>
> For this purpose, I'd like to offer hospitality on the Dutch party's
> Mumble server, where we could meet on a somewhat regular basis. I'd
> prefer an interval of once every few months, maybe quarterly?
>
> Would anyone be interested in setting this up with me? And if it's
> just me that's feeling a little overwhelmed and feels like a derp
> sometimes while trying to 'herd cats', then would anyone be willing to
> share their experiences with just me?
>
> To the international coordinators reading this: please forward this
> request to your party's taskforces/people that you think it is
> relevant for. They may either contact me directly or through this list.
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you!
>
> Kindest regards,
> Lisa van Oostveen
> PP-NL
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