[pp.int.general] Invitation PPI Conference Paris 12th/13th of April

Fri Mar 28 07:59:48 CET 2014

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lmfao "psyops".  This Nutter has gone full-blown Infowars crazy yet people
> still put up with his shit.
>
> All hail the Lizard Race that runs the PPI!!!

You are not making it any better.

I don't see the announcement at http://www.pp-international.net/ so I
guess Andrew Norton is right and the announcement is too late. It is
hard to dispute that.

Maybe it would be acceptable to re-brand this as a PPI meeting instead
of GA? A meeting is all that we need - why should we do a formal GA
vote on formalities and later not respect them?

Z.

>
> On Mar 27, 2014 8:09 PM, "Andrew Norton" <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 3/27/2014 7:00 PM, Gregory Engels wrote:
>> > Dear Andrew,
>> >
>> > Sorry to destroy your conspiracy theory, but the GA was announced
>> > officially (this counts as invitation) many months ago.
>> >
>> Care to point to the announcement?
>> I've just looked through this list for the words 'paris' or 'conference'
>> and found ZERO.
>> I've looked on the PPI site (http://pp-international.net/) and that page
>> goes back to January 2013, and nothing.
>>
>> I even went through the Leaders list, and the only reference there is a
>> mail from Thomas Gaul August 7 2013, announcing that Paris has been
>> chosen as the venue, but no details beyond that.
>>
>> Now, I've looked at the wiki too, and until 2 days ago
>>
>> (http://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2014&diff=361462&oldid=361427),
>> there was very little there too.
>> You did change the date in December
>>
>> (http://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2014&diff=361427&oldid=361313),
>> so that means any announcement would have come after that.
>>
>> Simple question, WHERE?
>>
>> It's not on the website, not on this list, not on the leaders list, and
>> until 2 days ago the last time the page had been touched was 3 months
>> ago to change the date.
>>
>> So again, where, in the last 3 months, has there been ANY OFFICIAL
>> ANNOUNCEMENT? Not even the announcements required by the Statutes, but
>> any at all?
>>
>> It might be an idea to find that (which doesn't seem to exist) before
>> claiming it's a conspiracy.
>>
>> I even checked the 'not affiliated with PPI' PirateTimes, and saw the
>> announcement of ThinkTwice on there
>> (http://piratetimes.net/thinktwice-conference-2014-away-from-keyboard/)
>> but I've gone back to November there (remember, date changed on the wiki
>> in late December) and nothing.
>>
>> So, again, finally, WHAT NOTIFICATION.
>>
>> In fact, I've been looking over the minutes of the PPI Board (the last
>> one was mid-feb -
>>
>> http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Minutes_2014-02-18#10_General_Assembly_2014
>> - - and doesn't seem to have been another, again violation of the
>> statutes, but what's new there) and it notes that there were deadlines
>> for amendments and membership applications that were 2 weeks ago. Again,
>> I've seen no notice, or information of this either.
>> And the previous meeting
>>
>> (http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Minutes_2014-01-21#5_General_Assembly_2014)
>> says the details weren't set then either.
>>
>> As I write this, I'm checking and finding more and more 'changes' to the
>> plans. Based on this meeting minutes, it's pretty clear that there was
>> no solid plan for this event as recently as 2 months ago. So, Now we
>> need an announcement in the last 2 months. I've even narrowed the time
>> frame for it, aren't I nice.
>>
>> Now, think VERY carefully before you respond, and instead of your
>> 'psyops' (you know, what you usually do when confronted with your
>> misdeeds, start throwing out personal attacks and accusations) try doing
>> the PIRATE thing, and respond with some nice links, showing these
>> announcements. Shouldn't be too hard to do, right? Thus there's no need
>> to respond with anything other than the links, since they should be able
>> to speak for themselves. Am I right, people?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> > This email is just the reminder.
>> >
>> > Gregory Engels
>> > International Coordinator
>> > Pirate Party of Germany
>> >
>> > mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
>> > skype:gregory.engels
>> > jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>> > my free time: http://doodle.com/dichter
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 27.03.2014, at 23:55, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Signed PGP part
>> >> Just as a point of order, isn't this a bit late?
>> >>
>> >> Statutes say"
>> >> (Statute IX(7) Meetings of the General Assembly will be announced at
>> >> least five weeks prior to the meeting. The invitation will be sent out
>> >> by the Board to all Members and published on the homepage of Pirate
>> >> Parties International website."
>> >>
>> >> it's now just over TWO, not 5.
>> >>
>> >> Thus I can't see how this can be now considered a valid GA under the
>> >> statutes.
>> >> Sorry.
>> >>
>> >> It's not as if it wasn't basically pre-planned back last summer. But,
>> >> the statutes are EXPLICIT on this. That the Board failed (yet again) in
>> >> their required duties.
>> >>
>> >> As best I can tell, the earliest date right now that meets the Statutes
>> >> will be the weekend of the 3rd of May. I'm pretty sure we can organise
>> >> an online-only GA for then, right people? I mean we ARE the party of
>> >> the
>> >> technologist, can't manage that, then might as well not bother.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, for many of us, that's only a week or two before the EU
>> >> elections, so going to be difficult for a  lot of us to find the value
>> >> in bureaucratic ego-stroking at that time, so perhaps the weekend of
>> >> May
>> >> 31st?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But yeah, under the statutes, this is clearly a no-go.
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/27/2014 6:40 PM, Gregory Engels wrote:
>> >>> *Please forward this invitation to whom it may concern*
>> >>> *
>> >>> *
>> >>> *Invitation PPI Conference Paris 12th/13th of April*
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear Pirates,
>> >>>
>> >>> we would like to invite you to the 2014 Pirate Parties International
>> >>> Conference which will be held on April 12th and 13st in Paris, France.
>> >>> During this conference, the General Assembly - PPI's highest body -
>> >>> will
>> >>> decide upon
>> >>>
>> >>>   * the admittance of new members to the PPI,
>> >>>
>> >>>   * elect a new board and
>> >>>
>> >>>   * discuss and vote on amendments to the PPI statutes.
>> >>>
>> >>> The preliminary timetable can be found at the end of this message.
>> >>>
>> >>> *Open Space: Emerging Issues for the Global Society*
>> >>> The world is on fire, democracy under pressure more than ever and all
>> >>> the trends, that the Pirateparties warned about are getting worse by
>> >>> the
>> >>> minute. We want to and have to raise our voices on these gloabl issues
>> >>> in a constructive way.
>> >>> In that spirit of maintaining communication and co-operation between
>> >>> Pirate Parties around the world an Open Space event workshop is
>> >>> planned
>> >>> to be held on the first day of the conference. Open Space Technology
>> >>> is
>> >>> a powerful tool that allows to handle the most complex matters with
>> >>> the
>> >>> ease of a coffee break, and will allow us to take a glance at the
>> >>> future
>> >>> of the PPI and our visibility in the world. For this session we have
>> >>> picked the theme „Emerging Issues for the Global Society“. Be ready to
>> >>> immerse in this topic in dynamic, high-energetic environment.
>> >>>
>> >>> *Everybody welcome*
>> >>> Each PPI member can register up to 6 persons as official delegates
>> >>> (PPI
>> >>> Statutes IX.4), but all Pirates and interested persons are very
>> >>> welcome
>> >>> to join as guests.
>> >>>
>> >>> *Delegates: Please follow Rules of Procedure*
>> >>> According to the standing Rules of Procedure, all local and remote
>> >>> delegates must present written authorization from a member of their
>> >>> respective board unless they are designated International Coordinator
>> >>> or
>> >>> equivalent on their parties official website. Each person may
>> >>> represent
>> >>> as a delegate no more than 2 parties. (PPI RoP Art.1 §4) We kindly ask
>> >>> the delegates to present such accreditation in advance, in order to
>> >>> speed up the conference proceeding. This is especially true for remote
>> >>> delegations, as we would like to connect you with your designated
>> >>> local
>> >>> proxy for technical set-up.
>> >>>
>> >>> *Registration*
>> >>> To register for the conference please fill in the form
>> >>> at http://ppinternational.eventbrite.com
>> >>> <http://ppinternational.eventbrite.com/> or send in an email to
>> >>> conference (at) pp-international.net <http://pp-international.net>
>> >>>
>> >>> *Pay what you ... well: can*
>> >>> This time we do not ask for a participation fee for the conference
>> >>> (for
>> >>> the past conferences we had fees between 25 and 70 Euro) - but instead
>> >>> we will use the „pay what you want“ model. As the event does cost a
>> >>> lot
>> >>> - please pay, even if it's just a little :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> *Official business*
>> >>> The General Assembly will also elect a new board and other officers of
>> >>> PPI. Candidates should either submit their application
>> >>> to
>> >>> http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2014/Board_candidatures or
>> >>> e-mail their application to board (at) pp-international (dot) net.
>> >>>
>> >>> The deadline for submitting proposals for amendments to PPI Statutes
>> >>> was
>> >>> March 14th 23:59 CET. Please consult the submitted proposals
>> >>> at:
>> >>> http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2014/Statutes_Amendments
>> >>> Other
>> >>> motions do not have a deadline and can be found
>> >>> here:
>> >>> http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2014/Other_proposals
>> >>>
>> >>> For further information concerning the 2012 PPI conference you can
>> >>> visit  http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2014 or contact
>> >>> the Board at board at pp-international.net
>> >>> <mailto:board at pp-international.net>.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kind regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> the Board of the PPI
>> >>>
>> >>> ==
>> >>> Preliminary timetable:
>> >>>
>> >>> 11. April 2014 - Friday
>> >>>
>> >>> 19:00 - Social event
>> >>>
>> >>> 12. April 2014 - Saturday
>> >>>
>> >>> 09:00 Delegates accreditation
>> >>> 10:00 Opening of the conference
>> >>>
>> >>> 20:00 Social event
>> >>>
>> >>> 13. April 2014 - Sunday
>> >>>
>> >>> 10:00 Conference reopen
>> >>> General Assembly
>> >>> * Admittance of new PPI Members
>> >>> * Reports PPI officers (board, court, lay auditors)
>> >>> * Elections of PPI officers (board, court, lay auditors)
>> >>> * Motions and Statutes Amendments
>> >>> * Issue of statements
>> >>> * Press Conference
>> >>> 18:00 Official Conference End
>> >>>
>> >>> (*) all official events will be streamed
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ____________________________________________________
>> >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>> >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Andrew Norton
>> >> http://ktetch.co.uk
>> >> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH [+1-352-658-3824]
>> >>
>> >> ____________________________________________________
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ____________________________________________________
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>> >
>>
>>
>> - --
>> Andrew Norton
>> http://ktetch.co.uk
>> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH [+1-352-658-3824]
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