[pp.int.general] 19.04.2014 - Stop TTIP Protests - worldwide - fight the ACTA zombies !

Fri Mar 28 20:16:34 CET 2014

Hi,

I said it already on Twitter: It´s a difficult date in Germany too.
Not only holidays/Holy Saturday. Have a look at
http://cologne.stopwatchingus.info/demo-12-april.html. You won´t get
many people to organize big demonstrations (beside pirates ;) ) or to
mobilize for demonstrations on 2014-4-19 in Germany. Only 3 weeks left...

Just in case: Next INDECT-events will be on 17. May 2014
(http://pastebin.com/8hPqnUw9).

Kine

Am 28.03.14 12:49, schrieb Pirat at LennStar.de:
> Generally speaking:
> 
> Think about it and then do what you think best to reach the goal to get
> 250000 people on the streets. Nobody of us knows better then you (as in
> polish people) what to do in Poland.
> 
> 
> LennStar
> 
> Am 28.03.2014 12:07, schrieb Zbigniew Łukasiak:
>> 19th of April is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Saturday - this is
>> a no go for us in Poland.
>>
>> Sorry - but you have to change the date.
>>
>> Z.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Zbigniew Łukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hmm
>>>
>>> How did you choose the date for the demos?
>>>
>>> I've tried to contact some organizations and they don't know anything
>>> about this.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should sent a doodle to all the NGOs that we want to invite?
>>>
>>> http://doodle.com/z3pep2mf6d9wivnx
>>>
>>> This is the way to get them on board. People don't want to join an
>>> event that they have no say in creating it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Zbigniew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de> wrote:
>>>> Ah, I see what you are heading for: Avoiding double work by only using the wiki for collecting demo location entries.
>>>> Yeah, this is definitely something which one can do...I like you. You have good ideas; I've put it into action: http://stopttipprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Demo_location_entries_in_protestmap
>>>>
>>>> To your Contact question:
>>>> Well, here are all organizations listed, which were incorporated regarding the stopACTA protests (click on "Organisationen"): http://wiki.stoppacta-protest.info/index.php?title=Support&oldid=2547
>>>> We definitely could need someone who does nothing else but contacting all thinkable organizations with individualized templates, in order to make them join the protest - well, who does that ? :D
>>>> And last thought: You asked for AK-Vorrat - I'sd suggest prioritizing all organizations outside Germany; most german NGOs are very difficult to handle these days, especially now in election time.
>>>> I bet that in other countries than Germany it's more easy to make organizations participate, especially USA, as over there no elections are soon ;) ... as soon as some NGOs in other countries
>>>> participate, it's far easier to address german NGOs...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> / aka Oliver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>> Von: Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>>>> Datum: 27.03.2014 21:49:41
>>>> An: Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] 19.04.2014 - Stop TTIP Protests - worldwide -  fight the ACTA zombies !
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thumbs up for creating the wiki!
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is the procedure that you propose? I think that most newcomers
>>>>> will edit the pad - so it will be probably our task to synchronize it
>>>>> with the wiki. Wiki can look better than pad - so it might be more
>>>>> 'official' and we can use it in outside communication probably.
>>>>>
>>>>> One question - do you have contacts from other organizations? Like AKVorrat?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Zbigniew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> first of all: Sry for the delay !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The new neutral wiki in default-english - https://stopttipprotest.wikia.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - it's heavily under construction right now, so don't wonder how it
>>>>> looks right now...
>>>>>> - it's a rather new wiki version
>>>>>> - you don't need to log in or be registered in order to edit ! (pro
>>>>> easy access)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. This is the polish sub page - https://stopttipprotest.wikia.com/wiki/PL:Overview_Demos
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - do with it what you like ;) ...
>>>>>> - I think it's also a good idea to link it in the protestmap, at least
>>>>> temporarily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Currently there are 4 countries participating and on the demo location
>>>>> level 7 cities:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=z2_7kVjvOAF0.kJGmGBbsABbM
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C'mon, folks. Can't be all. What's with the US pirates ? What's with
>>>>> the french pirates ?
>>>>>> The spanish pirates ? The canadian pirates ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Entry a demo location + relate wiki page or facebook event page with
>>>>> promise option here: http://titanpad.com/19thaprilprotests
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> / aka Oliver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>>>> Von: Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Datum: 27.03.2014 13:29:37
>>>>>> An: Torben Lechner <hyazinthe at emailn.de>,       Pirate Parties
>>>>> International -- General Talk <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] 19.04.2014 - Stop TTIP Protests - worldwide
>>>>> -  fight the ACTA zombies !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yesterday at the pad it was decided that we need a wiki with default
>>>>>
>>>>>>> English localization - is it ready now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like this subject gets very heated right now in Poland
>>>>> - so
>>>>>>> we need to start quickly with the organization of demos and gathering
>>>>>
>>>>>>> of TTIP info materials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Polish Ministry of Economy organizes some consultations on April
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3rd for NGOs, we'll try to get there or pass our questions to the
>>>>> NGOs
>>>>>>> that will be invited. Do you guys have questions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my list:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Can the Ministry assure us that TTIP will not introduce software
>>>>>
>>>>>>> patents into Poland?
>>>>>>> 2. Can the Ministry assure us that TTIP will not cause restrictions
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> fair use of copyrighted materials?
>>>>>>> 3. Can the Ministry assure us that after signing TTIP Poland will
>>>>>
>>>>>>> still hold sovereign right to shorten the time of copyright protection
>>>>>
>>>>>>> or increase the fair use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember also from the TTIP discussion at PPUE meeting that TTIP
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> advertised using only the best case scenario calculations and the
>>>>>
>>>>>>> realistic case are never mentioned - but I am struggling with making
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> concrete question out of this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Zbigniew ?ukasiak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________
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>>>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>>>>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>>>>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
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