[pp.int.general] Fwd: Really now?

[pirate at valio.ch]

We set that up, back then when Samir and I started with the coreteam in 2009.
It was the easiest solution and Gmail still offers one of the most  
usable Webmail UIs.
Mail software that is setup once but is hardly updated can be much  
worse, than using GMail where you can expect a reasonable SLA.
It's no problem to encrypt all mail traffic with PGP in Gmail, which  
is nowadays anyway the only reasonable approach if you're concerned  
about government spying.

TL;DR: the primary problem is not Gmail atm, but that PPI needs a  
constant IT SLA.

-pat

Zitat von Patrick Godschalk <patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl>:

> It's been a year! So I'm just sending this again in the hopes
> that one of these days, someone will actually care to do
> something about this issue. Using services that violate not only
> your privacy, but the privacy of everyone you come into contact
> with is undeserving of the term Pirate Party.
>
> My offer made a year ago to set up a mail server free of charge
> for the PPI still stands; something that can be done by renting
> any simple VPS. Which, mind you, for this purpose costs less per
> month than buying two beers at the pub.
> --
> Patrick Godschalk
> patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl
> OpenPGP: <https://argure.nl/identity/ecc14594.asc>
> This e-mail, CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [pp.int.general] Really now?
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:55:04 +0100
> From: Patrick Godschalk <patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl>
> Reply-To: patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl, Pirate Parties
> International -- General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Organisation: Piratenpartij
> To: <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>
> Can someone explain to me why mails that are sent to a Pirate Party
> organisation are stored with Google, scrubbed for profiling and
> stored
> on a US server that falls under the Patriot Act?
>
> ...Really?
>
>
>
> alderaan:~ argure$ dig pp-international.net mx
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> pp-international.net mx
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22368
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 12
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;pp-international.net.		IN	MX
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	20 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	20 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	30 ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	MX	10 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	NS	ns20.domaincontrol.COM.
> pp-international.net.	3600	IN	NS	ns19.domaincontrol.COM.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.	179	IN	A	173.194.67.26
> ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.	281	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:400c:c03::1a
> ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 86	IN	A	173.194.70.27
> ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 215	IN	A	173.194.69.26
> ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 170	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:4008:c01::1b
> ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	220	IN	A	173.194.70.27
> ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	2	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:4001:c02::1a
> ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	64	IN	A	173.194.69.27
> ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	115	IN	AAAA	2a00:1450:4008:c01::1b
> ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	183	IN	A	74.125.143.26
> ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM.	18	IN	A	74.125.141.27
> ns19.domaincontrol.COM.	46730	IN	A	216.69.185.10
>
> ;; Query time: 30 msec
> ;; SERVER: 62.238.255.69#53(62.238.255.69)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 18 14:49:30 2013
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 509
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