[pp.int.general] Spain just got 4 elected pirate councillors

Tue May 26 20:49:35 CEST 2015

Dear all,

I don't personally know the details of all the candidatures, but in the
link below you have a summary of the candidatures supported by Pirates de
Catalunya (I think there was only one missing):

http://pirata.cat/bloc/

>> How many of them were in a pirate list? <<

I'm afraid the answer is not binnary, it depends on what you mean by
"pirate list". There were four types of candidatures and to me they are all
quite pirate. I describe them here in detail so you can decide for yourself
which ones fit your definition.  :)

1) "Hi donem suport."

We received a lot of calls for help from citizen candidatures and other
assemblies to run for elections, so we decided to create a coalition with
the generic name "Democràcia Municipal" (without the name "Pirates de
Catalunya" in it) and offered it publicly.

This was a tool which would allow citizens candidatures to run for
elections avoiding the typical bureaucratic obstacles that prevent them
from participating (signature gathering in very short times, etc).

http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=4755

We didn't force them to have registered members of Pirates de Catalunya
among their candidates but we set the requisite that the candidatures
included the pirate ideals within their programmes. The whole point was
that they didn't have to run with the name "Pirates de Catalunya" imposed
by us or include people that we told them (which is what most parties have
been doing).

I understand that you could debate whether those are pirate councillors
but, to me, they are. I don't need them to register to my private list and
to run with my name to consider them pirates. If they are defending pirate
ideals, that's pirate enough for me.  :)

2) "Candidatura 100% pirata."

Lists with 100% members of Pirates de Catalunya. We also created the
coalition "Democràcia Municipal" for them so they could run with their
local names ("Pirates of Whatevertown" instead of "Pirates de Catalunya").

3) "Agrupacions d’electors"

Citizen candidatures where pirates have been actively involved as
self-proclaimed pirate candidates and making sure the programmes where
pirate (as far as I know, this is the case of all exept "Gent d'Alella"
which was created a few years ago before Mercè joined Pirates de Catalunya,
so the fact of her being a pirate is unrelated to the candidature). I think
most of those candidatures (if not all) included the pirate ideals as well,
but I could be wrong because I don't know all the details of each.

4) "Confluències"

Coalitions of parties with Pirates de Catalunya being one of the
participating parties. These included of course the pirate ideals as well
as a hard condition for us to take part. Since our local assemblies have
autonomy to decide how they run for the municipal elections, our GA made a
manifesto months ago establishing the minimum conditions for local pirate
assemblies to run in coalitions with other parties (transparency,
primaries, etc).

http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=4601

I hope this solves any doubts.  :)

Greetings,

         Muriel

2015-05-26 18:55 GMT+02:00 michael john sinclair <mickeyy_sinclair at yahoo.de>
:

> 3 true pirates, rest in lista,
>
>
>
>   Daniel <danielrr2 at gmail.com> schrieb am 18:21 Dienstag, 26.Mai 2015:
>
>
> How many of them were in a pirate list?
>
> Daniel
>
> El 26/5/2015, a las 17:27, Muriel Rovira Esteva <muriel at pirata.cat>
> escribió:
>
> Hi Josef,
>
> Just a note.
>
> Mercè Marzo is indeed a happy pirate, but that candidature where she was
> running (Gent d'Alella) is a citizens' candidature (without parties), so
> she was running there as one more citizen, not representing Pirates of
> Catalunya. That she is a pirate it should be just taken as a fun fact.  ;)
>
> We're quite glad that she got elected and we're sure she'll make a
> beautiful job, as she has already been doing, but it's important to make
> sure that there's no confusion in whatever communications about her role,
> specially toward her candidature fellows.  :)
>
> Greetings,
>
>           Muriel
>
>
> 2015-05-26 15:12 GMT+02:00 Josef Ohlsson Collentine <josef at piratetimes.net
> >:
>
> Hi Pirates,
>
> the local elections in Spain went good and we're happy to have another 4
> elected pirates in Spain. More information available in English, French and
> Spanish
>
> http://piratetimes.net/results-for-pirates-in-the-spanish-local-elections/
>
>
> http://piratetimes.net/es/resultados-de-los-piratas-en-las-elecciones-locales-del-estado-espanol/
>
>
> http://piratetimes.net/fr/quatre-nouveaux-representants-pirate-elus-en-espagne/
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