[pp.int.general] English translation of the French Pirate Party's statement on the Paris attack?

James O'Keefe jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org
Thu Nov 19 15:42:25 CET 2015


Thanks.  We posted it at:

https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/11/19/if-you-want-peace-prepare-for-peace/

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:01 PM, vallois.julien <vallois.julien at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Not my works but very glad to transmit them
> Le 18 nov. 2015 10:28 PM, "James O'Keefe" <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org> a
> écrit :
>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:42 PM, vallois.julien <vallois.julien at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> you should find below translations in english and spanish about our
>>> statement.
>>>
>>> http://www.partipirate.org/Si-vis-pacem-para-pacem
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> == English==
>>>
>>> Si vis pacem, para pacem // If you want peace, prepare for peace
>>>
>>> November the 13th, cowardice and bigotry have bloodied the streets of
>>> Paris and our indignation is huge. Our thoughts are with the victims and
>>> their relatives. These lives, cut, broken, nothing will bring them back to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> But now what ? Here our proposition in one sentence : If you want peace,
>>> prepare for peace.
>>>
>>> Don't charge us with angelism - fashionable accusation. Without doubt we
>>> must destroy Daesh, for the same reason it is necessary to treat the
>>> symptoms of a serious illness as the same time we apply a basic treatment.
>>> But make no mistake : the elimination of the caliphate won't bring us more
>>> safety than the one of Bin Laden if a serious work is not undertaken to
>>> heal the true causes of this tragedy.
>>>
>>> Prepare for peace, it means stop encouraging war. Martial posturing of
>>> Valls, Sarkozy or any Le Pen exacerbate hatred at the same time they
>>> obscure the real issues. For decades, the Western powers - especially
>>> France - produce and export huge quantities of military equipment. The
>>> engaged armies in the Middle-East or Africa support private interests at
>>> far distance from the objectives set for the defense of the human rights
>>> and democracy. This must stop. The West, France, should urgently take the
>>> path of solidarity, civil construction and distribution of the weath for
>>> the common good.
>>>
>>> Prepare for peace, it means support freedom and not try to further
>>> reduce it as the system's players are doing with the same cynism that
>>> prevailed in January. Tens of repressive laws voted last years have further
>>> demonstrated their ineffectiveness. Rather than abandon itself into a
>>> population control fantasy by useless and expensive black boxes, the state
>>> would do better focus on more and better trained staff able to act
>>> protecting what a democracy has most precious : lives of citizens and their
>>> freedoms.
>>>
>>> Prepare for peace, it means fight violence. International violence
>>> against the most vulnerable people than ours and subjected to post-colonial
>>> dictatorship. Violence within our borders, exercised against those excluded
>>> of the system, more and more numerous, more and more marginalized. The
>>> criminals of November the 13th must be put out of harm's way. But every
>>> citizen must interrogate himself/herself on the missed rendez-vous and
>>> geopolitical cowardices of our democracies that have brought this world to
>>> the dramatic situation which we see.
>>>
>>> Our emotion is huge but more than ever we must keep a cool head. In
>>> politics, as in medecine, it does not accomplish anything if we didn't pose
>>> the good diagnosis.
>>>
>>>
>>> ==Spanish==
>>>
>>> Si vis pacem, para pacem  // Si quieres la paz, prepárate para la paz
>>>
>>> El 13 de noviembre, actos cobardes y de fanatismo han llenado de sangre
>>> las calles de París. Nuestra indignación es inmensa. Recordamos a las
>>> víctimas y a sus allegados. Vidas robadas, rotas, que no se nos devolverán.
>>>
>>> ¿Y ahora qué? Nuestra postura cabe en una frase: Si quieres la paz,
>>> prepárate para la paz.
>>>
>>> Que no nos tachen de optimistas inocentes —acusación de moda. No cabe
>>> duda de que hay que destruir el Daesh por la misma razón que es necesario
>>> curar los síntomas de una enfermedad grave mientras se aplica un
>>> tratamiento intensivo. Pero no nos equivoquemos: acabar con el califato no
>>> traerá más seguridad que Bin Laden si no se emprenden acciones serias para
>>> abordar las causas reales de este drama.
>>>
>>> Preparase para la paz significa dejar de fomentar la guerra. Las
>>> posiciones marciales de Valls, Sarkozy y cualquier Le Pen exacerban el odio
>>> al mismo tiempo que ocultan los problemas de verdad. Desde hace décadas,
>>> los poderes occidentales —Francia en particular— producen y exportan
>>> cantidades inmensas de equipamiento militar. Las tropas de Oriente Medio y
>>> África mantienen unos intereses privados que distan mucho de los objetivos
>>> establecidos para la defensa de los derechos humanos y la democracia. Esto
>>> tiene que terminar. Occidente, Francia, tienen que tomar urgentemente la
>>> vía de la solidaridad, de la contrucción civil y de la distribución de la
>>> riqueza en favor del bien común.
>>>
>>> Prepararse para la paz significa apoyar la libertad y no osar reducirla
>>> como hacen los actores del sistema con el mismo cinismo de enero. La decena
>>> de leyes liberticidas votadas en los últimos años han demostrado más aún su
>>> ineficacia. En lugar de abandonarse a la fantasía de controlar a la
>>> población por medio de cajas negras inútiles y de elevado coste, el Estado
>>> debería centrarse en formar a más personal y mejor, personal capaz de
>>> actuar para proteger lo más preciado de una democracia: la vida de los
>>> ciudadanos y su libertad.
>>>
>>> Prepararse para la paz significa luchar contra la violencia. Violencia
>>> internacional contra pueblos más vulnerables que los nuestros y sometidos a
>>> dictaduras post-coloniales. Violencia dentro de nuestras fronteras,
>>> infligida a los que están excluidos del sistema, cada vez más numerosos,
>>> cada vez más marginados. Se ha de neutralizar a los criminales del 13 de
>>> noviembre. Pero todos los ciudadanos deben cuestionarse con toda conciencia
>>> sobre los desencuentros y la cobardía geopolítica de nuestras democracias
>>> que han arrastrado al mundo a la dramática situación que estamos viendo.
>>>
>>> Aunque llenos de emoción, hoy más que nunca hemos de mantener la cabeza
>>> fría. En la política, como en la medicina, no se logra nada sin un
>>> diagnóstico acertado.
>>>
>>> --------
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-11-18 20:00 GMT+01:00 James O'Keefe <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org>:
>>>
>>>> Anyone have an English translation of the French Pirate Party's
>>>> statement on the Paris attack?  It is at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.partipirate.fr/Si-vis-pacem-para-pacem
>>>>
>>>> And google translate just won't cut it.
>>>>
>>>> peace,
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>> --
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>>
>>
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>> peace,
>>
>> James
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James
--
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