[pp.int.general] GA: Membership Requests

[Jay Emerson]

Hey thanks for pointing that out Andrew!

Here you go Carlos, I attached it to this email.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 7/22/2016 11:41 AM, Jay Emerson wrote:
> > Hey so here's the constitution with statutes and stuff:
> > ​
> >  Pirate Party of New York Constitution
> > <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IZOFaRD14xNwwR3Fr4IS0gqwmdqCMuXCn57Mkgu64V8/edit?usp=drive_web
> >
> > ​
> > Let us know if you need anything else.
>
> How about you actually reading what the problem Carlo has was.
> " They are protected by a surveillance+javascript-enforcement shield
> (Google Drive)."
>
> So your answer is... post the same link.
>
> Says wonders about your skills.
>
> >
> > Also, I would like to state for the record Andrew Norton is a right-wing
> > anally regurgitated cum bubble who works for the feds.
>
> Proof of ANY of that? Nope, didn't think so (as usual). Like your hero
> Trump, you make the right noises, but when your scams are exposed, you
> resort to calling people names, because you have nothing else.
>
> I think, Jay, with this email you've just about verified everything I said.
>
> Andrew
>
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Jay
> > Interim Administrative Officer of the NYPP
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:08 AM, carlo von lynX
> > <lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org <mailto:lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello, just went through the applications for membership.
> >
> >
> >     1. I have some worries regarding the request from the
> >         "Democratic Pirates of Australia":
> >
> >     According to the statutes of this organisation...
> >         - the board consists of only 3 people and has the power to
> overrule
> >           any party decision with a 2/3 majority (art. 1B 2)
> >         - the president can do everything the board would be able to do
> >           *alone* if the board "ceases to function" (whatever that means)
> >           (art. 1B 4)
> >         - the president runs the assemblies
> >         - the policy committee has to "coordinate" with the president
> >           (what if the president ignores them?)
> >         - the party member has only duties
> >         - two articles indicate that the president alone has the power
> >           to expel any party member.
> >         - there is no internal justice system.
> >
> >     For me one or two of these points are enough not to consider
> >     this a democratic organisation. If I look at the statutes more
> >     closely I may find more criticalities.
> >
> >     2. Pirate Party of NRW
> >
> >     I don't need to look up the statutes as German laws impose
> >     internal democracy and justice on any national or regional
> >     political party.
> >
> >     3. "Internet Party of Serbia"
> >
> >         - the board has the power to impede changes to the statutes by
> >     the assembly (art. 41)
> >         - the board of only three people meets only every 4 months and
> >     is elected for 4 years (art. 29, 31)
> >         - the vice president has to do everything the president tells
> >     him to do, so factually the president can do whatever they like for
> >     4 months straight.
> >         - the president also decides who organises the assembly
> >     (possibly themselves) (art. 22)
> >         - error: 51% is NOT a simple majority (art. 21 and elsewhere)
> >         - there is no internal justice system.
> >
> >     Same considerations as for (1).
> >
> >     4. Pirate Party of New York
> >
> >     Possibly lucky for them (excuse me making fun of myself at this
> >     point), I was not able to access the statutes. They are protected
> >     by a surveillance+javascript-enforcement shield (Google Drive).
> >     What about using the wiki's file upload facility?
> >
> >
> >     Hope this is useful to everyone. Thanks for your attention.
> >
> >
> >     --
> >       E-mail is public! Talk to me in private using encryption:
> >              http://loupsycedyglgamf.onion/LynX/
> >               irc://loupsycedyglgamf.onion:67/lynX
> >              https://psyced.org:34443/LynX/
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jay Emerson
> >
> >
> >
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Jay Emerson
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