[pp.int.general] GA: Membership Requests

[Andrew Norton]

On 7/22/2016 11:41 AM, Jay Emerson wrote:
> Hey so here's the constitution with statutes and stuff:
> ​
>  Pirate Party of New York Constitution
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IZOFaRD14xNwwR3Fr4IS0gqwmdqCMuXCn57Mkgu64V8/edit?usp=drive_web>
> ​
> Let us know if you need anything else.

How about you actually reading what the problem Carlo has was.
" They are protected by a surveillance+javascript-enforcement shield
(Google Drive)."

So your answer is... post the same link.

Says wonders about your skills.

> 
> Also, I would like to state for the record Andrew Norton is a right-wing
> anally regurgitated cum bubble who works for the feds. 

Proof of ANY of that? Nope, didn't think so (as usual). Like your hero
Trump, you make the right noises, but when your scams are exposed, you
resort to calling people names, because you have nothing else.

I think, Jay, with this email you've just about verified everything I said.

Andrew

> 
> Thank you,
> Jay
> Interim Administrative Officer of the NYPP
> 
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:08 AM, carlo von lynX
> <lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org <mailto:lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Hello, just went through the applications for membership.
> 
> 
>     1. I have some worries regarding the request from the
>         "Democratic Pirates of Australia":
> 
>     According to the statutes of this organisation...
>         - the board consists of only 3 people and has the power to overrule
>           any party decision with a 2/3 majority (art. 1B 2)
>         - the president can do everything the board would be able to do
>           *alone* if the board "ceases to function" (whatever that means)
>           (art. 1B 4)
>         - the president runs the assemblies
>         - the policy committee has to "coordinate" with the president
>           (what if the president ignores them?)
>         - the party member has only duties
>         - two articles indicate that the president alone has the power
>           to expel any party member.
>         - there is no internal justice system.
> 
>     For me one or two of these points are enough not to consider
>     this a democratic organisation. If I look at the statutes more
>     closely I may find more criticalities.
> 
>     2. Pirate Party of NRW
> 
>     I don't need to look up the statutes as German laws impose
>     internal democracy and justice on any national or regional
>     political party.
> 
>     3. "Internet Party of Serbia"
> 
>         - the board has the power to impede changes to the statutes by
>     the assembly (art. 41)
>         - the board of only three people meets only every 4 months and
>     is elected for 4 years (art. 29, 31)
>         - the vice president has to do everything the president tells
>     him to do, so factually the president can do whatever they like for
>     4 months straight.
>         - the president also decides who organises the assembly
>     (possibly themselves) (art. 22)
>         - error: 51% is NOT a simple majority (art. 21 and elsewhere)
>         - there is no internal justice system.
> 
>     Same considerations as for (1).
> 
>     4. Pirate Party of New York
> 
>     Possibly lucky for them (excuse me making fun of myself at this
>     point), I was not able to access the statutes. They are protected
>     by a surveillance+javascript-enforcement shield (Google Drive).
>     What about using the wiki's file upload facility?
> 
> 
>     Hope this is useful to everyone. Thanks for your attention.
> 
> 
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> Jay Emerson
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