[pp.int.general] My thoughts at present

James O'Keefe jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org
Wed Nov 2 16:54:00 CET 2016

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:22 AM, carlo von lynX <lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org>

> On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 09:19:47AM -0400, James O'Keefe wrote:
> > I see robots as just another form of capital, and the question becomes
> what
> > happens if a larger and larger portion of production only requires
> capital
> > and raw materials and not labor? You really cannot divorce this process
> > from the 40 year march of neoliberalism and the increase in power of
> > capital over labor.
> Nice thought. Thx.

Glad to help.

> > Personally, I find the belief that people should get a lump sum to care
> for
> > all of their needs (including health care and education) and leave them
> to
> > the failings of the market for key areas like health care is a step
> > backward.  I would rather quality universal single payer health care
> before
> > a basic income, but then I live in the US.
> The idea that UBI can provide for health care is profoundly wrong.
> UBI is not designed to handle ethically legitimate spikes in need.
> I think I discussed this in my posts mentioned beforehand, and I
> think none of the Pirate Parties have promoted such injust and
> unethical Milton Friedman style models of UBI. If that is the only
> UBI you have heard of until now, disinformation and manipulation
> is having its way!

Agreed, but a lot of the talk about UBI in the US is based around
libertarian silicon valley types, so we ignore them to our detriment.
Milton Friedman came from the US after all, and his ideas permeate US
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