[pp.int.general] My thoughts at present

carlo von lynX lynX at pirate.my.buttharp.org
Tue Oct 25 22:16:03 CEST 2016


On 10/24/2016 06:55 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Many say that part of the cause is a desire to find someone to feel
> superior to.

Yes! A common theme in all sorts of thug groups and right-wing
organizations - finding a sense of purpose in the pride of being
of a certain race or descent to compensate the challenge of real
life being bitter and harsh possiby, or just plain boring.

I don't know if we can do a lot politically regarding the boring
bit, but an unconditional basic income could alleviate the harsh
and bitter if basic survival is nothing you need to worry about,
not even if people are migrating into your country.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 08:29:53AM -0700, Paul Tidwell wrote:
> For clarification do you think robots are going to  fundamentally change
> the market order?

Depending on the definition of "market order" the change is already
taking place, or, if you by "order" mean the necessity to reform
the economic system, then no - robots won't do that for us.

> Like it will take people's jobs and it won't create new ones because
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU?

Yes, that clip is fundamental and the book from Federico Pistono
this is based on is pivotal. He's also one of the few folks who
got the UBI reasoning right, because he's good at being strictly
rational. Started out doubting that UBI can work out, then found
the data compelling. The net is full of video clips from this guy.
Go and enjoy.

I also worked on the topic of UBI, mostly within the Italian pirates
forums, but was recently asked to translate some of it and now I'm
getting invited to a conference in Amsterdam on that good old topic..  ;)

    How Criticism of Unconditional Basic Income stands on False Data
	http://my.pages.de/davidhfreedman

    Let's try the Unconditional Basic Outcome, then
	http://my.pages.de/outcomunisten

and the one that arose from a discussion on this mailing list years ago:

    Options for a Cumulative Unconditional Basic Income
	http://my.pages.de/unconditional 

My harshest criticism goes out to this new spin to manipulate the 
public opinion into thinking that there will be New Jobs to replace
the old ones while The Future of Jobs Report 2016 from the World 
Economic Forum suggests the contrary.

On 10/24/2016 10:57 PM, Paul Tidwell wrote:
> I have no idea of contextualizing how much good I did you guys but it
> would be nice to have some clue what  I bought the party. 

I have a vague feeling we are related to immi.is...
you probably did some good to something good.


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