[pp.int.general] Any news in France?

Jouni Snellman jounisnellman at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 08:50:53 CET 2007

The Russian elections are next weekend! Jouni

On 11/26/07, Valentin Villenave <v.villenave at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/11/26, Jouni Snellman <jounisnellman at gmail.com>:
> > France is always special. I am wondering if there´s any progress in
> Russia.
> ???
> Please explain :)
> > On Nov 26, 2007 4:56 PM, Helmut Pozimski <helmutpozimski at web.de> wrote:
> > > I am wondering if there's any progress in France. I read some really
> > > emotonial discussions in your forum but there don't seem to be a
> > > solution yet. What are your plans, do you plan to leave the situation
> > > with two coexisting parties? Which party is officially registered yet?
> > > Shall we link to both Websites in the wikis?
> Hi Helmut,
> I wish Andrew, Rick or anybody more important than us frenchies had
> anything to say about this issue...
> As far as we're dealing with it now, we've spent a few days typing the
> whole IP address in our browsers to access our portal and forums; no
> need to say that quite a bunch of our members got lost in the process.
> We're currently getting a new domain name; you can try, for instance,
> http://www.partipirate.org/ (we don't know yet if this is the one
> we'll definitively retain).
> By the way, many many thanks to Andy for proposing us a temporary
> webspace; as we've luckily kept our server, we shouldn't be needing
> it; however as you've noticed, the main help we do need will be all
> about "legitimacy" issues. Plus, all the work we had begun, promoting
> and sponsoring artists etc. is just wasted now: how can any artist,
> author, musician etc. trust us if someone else is yelling all over the
> Internet that we are pure bullsh*?
> As I've already told you, we would certainly have gladly welcome any
> proposal to create an alternate Parti Pirate branch. We're all for
> diversity, and we do believe each opinion and way of thinking has its
> legitimacy, as long as it remains democracy-compatible. I think two
> Parti Pirates /can/ coexist, in a pacific and friendly way. (Now,
> /should/ they? This is another question.) But if the only purpose of
> the latter is to destroy the former, this is simply wrong. We have no
> time to spend responding to false accusations, counter-flaming etc. No
> time, no courage, no patience and no strength: we're all just too sad
> and disappointed.
> But then again, we're still alive :)
> Regards,
> Valentin V. for the Parti Pirate (nope, the other one -- wait, which
> one is it again?)
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