[pp.int.general] 70.200 copyrights - ask PP´s for help - nightmare for RIAA

aloa5 piratenpartei at t-online.de
Mon Aug 25 10:53:38 CEST 2008


(just funny list of AABBCCDD follwoing *g*)

GEMA is a member of BIEM. Other members of BIEM are SABAM (Belgium) and 
in the Netherlands it ist called STEMRA, Denmark NCB - I think this 
could be the same (even I don´t know).

Complete list is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BIEM_members


Regards
ALOA



Reinier Bakels schrieb:
> I don't know about GEMA, but the Dutch BUMA counterpart usually solves 
> such problems by imposing lump sums, amounting to a "citation tax". 
> Obviously that is NOT what we want. A "reduction ad absurdum" approach 
> could be to propose the idea that actually the copyright owner should 
> *approve* the use of its work (70K permissions!). But usually collecting 
> societies simply ignore that aspect of copyright.
> 
> Obviously, there should be a "fair use" exception similar to the U.S. 
> Wich is still a limitation: look at this: 
> http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/pdf/cspdcomicscreen.pdf
> 
> Scholars started an action to advocate a more balanced application of 
> the "three step test": 
> http://www.ip.mpg.de/ww/de/pub/aktuelles/declaration_on_the_three_step_.cfm
> (this test is a test that decides what copyright exceptions are 
> acceptable under TRIPS and the Berne Convention - the problem is that it 
> is utterly vague)
> 
>> Hello Pirates,
>>
>> there ist a German composer Johannes Kreidler wich asked us for
>> support/help with (also international) press releases (done for Germany).
>>
>> http://www.kreidler-net.de/productplacements-e.html
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> music piece / performance ("music theater")
>>
>> 70,200 samples in 33 seconds: nightmare for GERMAN RIAA
>>
>> If you want to register a song at GEMA (RIAA, ASCAP of Germany) you have
>> to fill in a form for each sample you use, even the tiniest bit. On 12
>> Sept 08, German Avantgarde musician Johannes Kreidler will —as a live
>> performance event—register a short musical work that contains 70,200
>> quotations with GEMA using 70,200 forms.
>>
>> Trailer:
>>
>> (YouTube Trailer available there in english)
>> __
>>
>>
>> He plans to bring the 70.200 forms with a truck. Aim is to show how
>> senseless the copyright is.
>>
>> We will show the trailer at the first "OpenSource-OpenAir" in Hamburg
>> (28.8.-31.8.) and help him to bring the forms to the GEMA.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> ALOA
>>
>>
>>
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