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Stockholm)
that owns these houses have bad contracts with the Cable TV distributor =
(25
year+ contracts). The Cable TV distributor owns the TV cables in the =
houses
and have a monopoly on what to show there. The monopoly and the cost has
been a problem for the housing company. So for a long time the housing
company have looked at building their own IP based network, based on =
fiber
to the home.
In that way the housing company can own the last mile and controll what =
kind
of services are delivered to the houses, lower their cost and perhaps =
get a
share of money from the service providers. (VoIP, Video On Demand, =
Internet
etc.)
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I might add that I was involved in a similar project in Holland in 2002, =
it
is mainly the low income, large housing complexes in the suburbs built =
in
the 1960-70's with a lot of immigrants were this is done. Everyone can =
watch
their home countries television channels without putting up parabolic
antennas on the balcony (which has been a problem in Sweden) and it adds
value to the houses as well.=20
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Regards
Anders H.

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[mailto:pp.international.general-bounces at lists.pirateweb.net] F=F6r =
Carlos
Ayala
Skickat: den 13 maj 2008 10:21
Till: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk;
internacional at partidopirata.es
=C4mne: Re: [pp.int.general] Broadband rollout in Sweden continues


----- Mensaje original ----
De: Reinier Bakels <r.bakels at planet.nl>
Enviado: martes, 13 de mayo, 2008 9:34:25
> > News today; the major building contractors in Sweden have joined =
forces
to ensure that practically all of=20
> > tockholm's apartments have 1 Gbit connections to every room by 2010.
> How is this organised?
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Good question to which I'm gonna add myself -specially because here in =
Spain
we are the 16th of UE-27 countries in Internet coverage, so it will be =
very
useful to learn how to change the actual scenario- :) Regards
=20
=20
                                                                Carlos =
Ayala
                                                                ( =
Aiarakoa )
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                                              Partido Pirata National
Board's Chairman

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