[pp.int.general] EC consultations: will we give this time a joint answer?

[Jouni Snellman]

My French is also rusty. Which ones are the bolsheviks and which ones the
mensheviks in the French scenario? ; )

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Carlos Ayala <aiarakoa at yahoo.es> wrote:

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> De: Valentin Villenave <v.villenave at gmail.com>
> Enviado: martes, 25 de marzo, 2008 17:11:27
> > I'm really busy these days so I can't really pay attention to everything
> that goes through the mailinglist (this is only
> > temporarily but I don't really have any other choice, unfortunately)...
> >
> > You may remember that things are a bit difficult in France, as an
> hostile fork of the Parti Pirate keeps pretending that
> > we do not exist :(
>
> Yes, all who we were in Berlin are aware of the French scenario.
>
> > I've just been warned by some members of the Parti Pirate (MaryPoppins
> among others, who feels a bit discouraged as
> > you may have noticed) that our competitors have double-crossed us
> concerning the EC-consultation; of course, we
> > would actually be happy for them -- the only problem is that they keep
> signing with the same name as us, therefore
> > maintaining a disturbing confusion.
>
> Didn't know, I actually didn't read the PDF -which is also in french,
> something that difficults my understanding (I learned French in High School
> and I have some reading level, but not so much to fully understand complex
> texts-, just linked it.
>
> > Because of this confusion, some of us tend to get fed up, as they
> interpret such moves as different ways to deny our
> > existence and/or legitimacy.
>
> It's understandable.
>
> > I could develop in detail the differences between these two distincts
> movements, but that is obviously french-only
> > business. I'm just hoping that someday we can address this issue. What
> is more annoying is that in the meantime, we
> > are actually sending mixed signals to the public (and that,
> unfortunately, includes you guys at the PPI).
> >
> > Having carefully read the PDF document Carlos shared with us, I can't
> say that we agree on everything that is said.
> > This "other" Parti Pirate has obviously different orientations and
> different ideas than ours -- once again that would be
> > fine, if these guys weren't pretending to be us...
> >
> > I hate to put the PPI in such an ackward position. However, perhaps
> you'll understand how baffled, discouraged we can
> > be -- not to mention, at some times, *really* pissed.
>
> Wouldn't certainly be an agreeable situation for us to be in the same
> situation as you actually are, indeed. Hope such problems can be solved soon
> :) By the way, I finally was able to contact our IT Group -as our PRs didn't
> make the step-, and they've finally changed French URL on our website<http://www.partidopirata.es/>.
> Please check it.
>
> > Carlos: thanks for mentioning the RFID consultation; we had completely
> forgotten about it; thanks to you we'll write
> > something on time -- actually this concerns us at most.
>
> Yes, we have to be aware of all EU movements, to be able to react on time
> -as, of course, as a PPI whole, which would give us a higher status-.
> Regards
>
>
>
> Carlos Ayala
>
> ( Aiarakoa )
>
>                                                             Partido Pirata
> National Board's Chairman
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