[pp.int.general] Pirate Manifesto: Finally, amendments showdown
Mirco da Silva
mirco.da.silva at piracy-international.org
Tue Nov 11 15:35:50 CET 2008
Christian Hufgard schrieb:
> Zitat von Mirco da Silva <mirco.da.silva at piracy-international.org>:
>> Christian Hufgard schrieb:
>>> Yes, some pirates are anarchists,
>> Look into history.
>> Pirates never obeyed to the laws of any state.
> Except those, who had letters of marque and were nothing more than
> sailing mercenaries.
Me talking about glorious pirates not scurvy privateers.
Do ye homework, landlubber.
>> The only rules they accept and follow are their own pirate codex varying
>> an all autonomous units (aka pirate ships or fleets, projects - u name it)
>> In fact they were and are blamed to be the enemy number one to the
>> civilization of the empires and their global (east india) trading companies.
>> Guess why.
> I think, that you won't accept "burning down ships, killing the
> sailors and stealing their goods" as another possible reason?
Exactly, I do not.
The war begun way before the slaves began their uprising.
Do ye homework, landlubber.
>> To prefer individual and decentralized freedom instead of collective
>> centralized tyranny is a unique selling preposition of all Pirates - of
>> all times.
> As you say, they had rules to follow. So where exactly is the difference?
The difference is... to have a choice or not.
> a) as an opposite zu capitalism: yes. but I know, that a true
> communismn cannot be reached. so I waste only little time on that idea
But you do. And you dont expect "true communism".
You just need enough "real communism" to feel good.
Thats the dilemma of hypocrisy.
You cannot expect something, if you dont do anything for it.
> b) don't grab quote out of there context. I think that was the thread,
> when you claimed me to be a spy from government...
Not spy, but work. Willingly or not some do their best to transform the
risk of a growing german pirate party into a static asset of a
government controlled opposition. And some of them do it with a letter
I am Mirco da Silva, and I approved this message.
>> You are using the "pirate thing" as a useful tool on your way to a
>> dictatorship of the working class.
>> For me the pirate partys are trojan horses carrying the code for freedom
>> into authoritarian systems.
For a real discussion, please stand up.
> Yeah, I'm wasting my time with the pirates,
You are wasting your time, mkay.
Isnt that the same for you?
>>> they are a small minority.
>> The authoritarian the environment, the less pirates are present.
>> (Vice versa works too.)
> Well, think that's why the EU is increasing it's activities against
> pirates in front of somalia.
The EU decided this week to take their forces the first time ever into a
naval mission - against Pirates off the coast of Somalia.
As the Nato does, as the US Navy does, as Russia does. As even India does.
It seems their is no bigger thread on earth than pirates - despite the
upcoming new thread of 'eco-terrorists' like the Sea Shepheards.
Ooops.. they define themselves as modern pirates, too.
Pirates are a thread.
If you are not a thread you are not a pirate.
You are not a thread, except for Pirates.
Straight accusation enough, Christian?
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