[pp.int.general] Let us organize a study session!

coretx coretx at piratenpartij.nl
Mon Aug 3 12:00:30 CEST 2009 

Not yet, but the PPI foundation will be a fact soon.
It is utmost easy in Belgium ! Maybe i might even set it up using my  
private funds.

We want the next conference to be *perfect*
And use one day for meeting organisations such as EDRI etc.
The date will be set, once we have a near perfect program.
( And after the German elections )

Maybe The Berlin meeting can be used for helping out on this ?

On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:51 AM, gabriel luis wrote:

> Hi all,
> (I) think the foundation issue is very interesting as long as it  
> doesn´t end
> up in Liechtenstein or Austria ;-). Could anybody send me more  
> information
> about the conference in Brussel?
> The proposal with the meeting in Berlin still stands. Im still  
> waiting for
> certain key-data from poland, germany and spain in order to try to  
> fix a
> date.
> Greets
> GAbriel
>
> 2009/8/3 coretx <coretx at piratenpartij.nl>
>
>> Jurgen ( PP.BE <http://pp.be/> Chairman ) and I are about to find  
>> out the
>> criteria for setting up a PPI foundation in Brussels.
>>
>> Probably we only need statutes saying " For the promotion and  
>> stimulation
>> of pirate party's around the world" ( As generic as possible, so  
>> that no one
>> can oppose. )
>> It would be nice if we can make it official @ the Brussels  
>> conference.
>>
>> A Anonymous source told me that some money might be available for  
>> such
>> "projects" in the near future.
>> Plus, it would make us eligable for being subsidised.
>>
>> Extra detail: Most political party's have scientific institutes,  
>> wich are
>> _also_ eligable for being subsidised.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:45 AM, gabriel luis wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>> think it is a great idea to put up meetings. On the other hand I
>>> think that meetings needing more time and input (request for public
>>> fundings
>>> and other types of tecnocracy) that...Well it is too pesimistic to  
>>> say
>>> that
>>> the input is gonna be higher in qualitative and quantitative terms  
>>> than
>>> the
>>> output, but in my experience until now this is usually the case.
>>> What do you think about creating a central party board? I have  
>>> observed
>>> until now that the decission-making of the party is kind of  
>>> splittered,
>>> since everybody acts from inside border levels. Obviously borders  
>>> play a
>>> role in policy making but I think pirates shouldn´t commit the same
>>> mistakes
>>> like other (european) parties -whereas pirates have also a Chile- 
>>> based
>>> branch- failing in border based policy making. What about being a  
>>> true
>>> borderless party? Is it pure utopia? Would it be possible to move  
>>> the seat
>>> of the party from one country to another? What about using  
>>> mailboxes to be
>>> checked by local pirate-members? What about a central online bank
>>> account for activists to get funds directly?
>>> I think keeping the levels of burocracy-tecnocracy to the lowest  
>>> levels
>>> possible makes transparency also easier to achieve.
>>> Al this implies a certain level of trust. In Germany it is said that
>>> "trusting is good, but controlling is better". Some keywords
>>>
>>> Central party office (pirata.eu?), lobbying in Brussel for wireless
>>> inet-access, for legalization, for deintermediation in policy  
>>> making,
>>>
>>> I fetch the next coffee
>>> See ya
>>> Gabriel
>>>
>>> 2009/8/2 Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> 2009/8/2 Patrick Mächler v/o Valio <valio at visionsinteractive.ch>:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear pirates,
>>>>>
>>>>> What would you think of organizing a study session for young  
>>>>> people
>>>>> (mostly pirates) for about a week, that would be almost free for  
>>>>> all
>>>>> participants, except for a small fee of about 45€?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It's a fantastic idea! We already have a semi-formed working  
>>>> group for
>>>> this within Ung Pirat in Sweden. It's one of our main international
>>>> ambitions for the coming year, when it will also receive a place in
>>>> our budget bringing down those 45 euros to some maximum of 30 or so
>>>> per participant.
>>>>
>>>> However, there aren't just funding opportunities from CoE: we've  
>>>> been
>>>> looking into funding opportunities from the Youth Action  
>>>> Initiative by
>>>> the European Commission. Basically, with the EC requirements, we  
>>>> need
>>>> a cultural/educational exchange between two or more EU member  
>>>> states.
>>>> They normally fund about 70-75% of the entire project cost except  
>>>> for
>>>> travelling costs which they only fund 60% of.
>>>>
>>>> In Sweden, these EC grants are applied for via Ungdomsstyrelsen  
>>>> (Board
>>>> of Youth - administratory unit responsible for all grants and  
>>>> funds to
>>>> youth orgs) 4 times a year, so it's money we'd likely get  
>>>> relatively
>>>> quick.
>>>>
>>>> When I was in touch with Junge Piraten they said they'd like for  
>>>> such
>>>> an event to be held during the summer holidays, and that's probably
>>>> the best alternative for most young pirates, so I'd say we set the
>>>> dates for some time next year in july (2010)!
>>>>
>>>> Also, anyone else who might be reading this: it helps vastly when
>>>> applying for youth in action grants if there's a collaboration  
>>>> between
>>>> youth organisations, so if you know a couple of young pirates with
>>>> free time on their hands: have them start your national youth  
>>>> league!
>>>> We can then have exchanges!
>>>>
>>>> sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Amelia
>>>>
>>>> ======================
>>>>> 1. WHY SHOULD WE CARE?
>>>>> ======================
>>>>>
>>>>> I was recently at a study session that was organized by a ANSO,  
>>>>> a nordic
>>>>> LGBT union at the Youth Center in Budapest by the Council of  
>>>>> Europe
>>>>> (CoE). The CoE supported them in every way you could think of;
>>>>> financial, organizational and last but not least shelter, food and
>>>>> ticket refunding for all participants.
>>>>> I will remember that as a really great experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make things clear: The CoE is that organization that is  
>>>>> concerned
>>>>> with the European Convention on Human Rights; it has no direct
>>>>> connections to the European Union. Almost all European countries  
>>>>> are a
>>>>> part of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The CoE does support topics which are on our agendas, take a look
>>>>> http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=11#action11
>>>>> http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=8#action8
>>>>>
>>>>> In my view that would be a real opportunity for us on an  
>>>>> organizational
>>>>> and a political level.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==================
>>>>> 2. WHAT IS NEEDED?
>>>>> ==================
>>>>>
>>>>> We would need to create a team which
>>>>> * fills out a funding application
>>>>> * gets in contact with the CoE
>>>>> * creates a program for the study session
>>>>> * and executes that program in the study session
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some criteria which we would have to met of course to  
>>>>> get
>>>>> accepted.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- quote ---
>>>>> Activities can only be awarded if they are truly international or
>>>>> multilateral projects, which
>>>>> • Involve participants who are residents in at least 8 member  
>>>>> states of
>>>>> the Council of Europe, limiting participants coming from one  
>>>>> country to
>>>>> 20% of the total. Up to a maximum of 15% of the participants may  
>>>>> come
>>>>> from non-member countries;
>>>>> • Have a majority of participants between 18 and 30 years of age  
>>>>> (with a
>>>>> maximum of 25% over the age of 30) who can act as multipliers of  
>>>>> the
>>>>> results of the work done during the activity;
>>>>> • Strive to achieve a geographical and gender balance.
>>>>> --- /quote ---
>>>>> For detailed information, take a look here http://tinyurl.com/how-to-ss
>>>>>
>>>>> =========================
>>>>> 3. WHEN COULD WE DO THAT?
>>>>> =========================
>>>>>
>>>>> From http://www.eycb.coe.int/
>>>>> --- quote ---
>>>>> The EYC Secretariat must receive applications for activities to  
>>>>> be held
>>>>> at either EYC Budapest or EYC Strasbourg by the following  
>>>>> deadlines:
>>>>> * 1 April for activities to be carried out in the first half of  
>>>>> the
>>>>> following calendar year;
>>>>> * 1 October for activities to be carried out in the second half  
>>>>> of the
>>>>> following calendar year.
>>>>> --- /quote ---
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if some people are really interested we could manage  
>>>>> this still
>>>>> for 2010 or maybe 2011.
>>>>> No, something like this should not be done in a hurry, but neither
>>>>> should it be procrastinated unnecessarily.
>>>>>
>>>>> =============
>>>>> 4. CONCLUSION
>>>>> =============
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people might think that this sounds totally crazy, but I am
>>>>> convinced that we should give that opportunity a try...better  
>>>>> sooner,
>>>>> than later...
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is there. You have the chance to discuss it anytime; be  
>>>>> it on a
>>>>> local/national/international event or on the net.
>>>>> I know it sounds idealistic, but that's just how I am :)
>>>>>
>>>>> - cheers
>>>>> patrick
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Amelia Andersdotter
>>>> Lissabon-MEP
>>>>
>>>> +46 738436779
>>>> www.ameliatillbryssel.se
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